This sucks. But honestly, I kind of saw it coming. We had received a reported 600,000 signatures for petitions when only 200,000 were needed. My theory is that these were people walking into grocery stores or what have you, and didn’t pay attention to what they were signing. You got the guys out front chanting “End the recession, make our streets safer…” and people signed it. And others signed it saying “Yeah man, this is totally awesome if they’d legalize it.” And once election day came, many of my friends who are…um…lol…when asked about if they were voting previous to election days/weeks replied “Hell yeah man. Legalize Pot!!” Once election day came, many of them were like, “Oh dude, I totally forgot to register. Crazy shit.” Or “Yeah man, haven’t had any time today (been smoking all day and too lazy to give a damn)”. Well…maybe in two years, maybe not. Even if it did go through, Obama’s administration promised to still make arrests to anyone who grew or consumed marijuana. (Ironic since he himself did or still does smoke marijuana and cocaine.) Anyway…whatever.

This sucks. But honestly, I kind of saw it coming. We had received a reported 600,000 signatures for petitions when only 200,000 were needed. My theory is that these were people walking into grocery stores or what have you, and didn’t pay attention to what they were signing. You got the guys out front chanting “End the recession, make our streets safer…” and people signed it. And others signed it saying “Yeah man, this is totally awesome if they’d legalize it.” And once election day came, many of my friends who are…um…lol…when asked about if they were voting previous to election days/weeks replied “Hell yeah man. Legalize Pot!!” Once election day came, many of them were like, “Oh dude, I totally forgot to register. Crazy shit.” Or “Yeah man, haven’t had any time today (been smoking all day and too lazy to give a damn)”. Well…maybe in two years, maybe not. Even if it did go through, Obama’s administration promised to still make arrests to anyone who grew or consumed marijuana. (Ironic since he himself did or still does smoke marijuana and cocaine.) Anyway…whatever.

See what weed does for you. your fucked up friends cant even remember to vote cause their high. Glad to see the americans do right by not passing.

I’m so happy marijuana is and should always be illegal

Thats a good point, lower turnout for a law legalizeing a substance that tends to make people lazy.

Your comment on Obama being a cannabis user was unnecessary. Your further remark about him using cocaine was completely irrelevant and without supporting evidence. We are not talking about Dubya here, who, like Ozzy, is clearly a brain dead burnout. I don’t know if you were trying to be funny, but its not.

The drug lords and the mexican gang cartels are going to be very happy with the results. This will insure high street prices and the money will be flowing in for illegal growers.

The drug lords and the mexican gang cartels are going to be very happy with the results. This will insure high street prices and the money will be flowing in for illegal growers.

Republican piece of crap…

Republican piece of crap…

Republican piece of crap…

Why wouldn’t you want it to pass? Is it really all that bad? It is no worse then drinking. Look at the death tolls that come with DUI’s or the depression that sets in due to the alcohol consumption. No one has to get their stomachs pumped for over smoking. So many people are terrified because it is an illegal drug which should have never been illegal in the first place. It is proven to medically help the body and most people that smoke are laid back and not ready to fight. Alcohol has the reverse affect. So maybe before you say it shouldn’t be legal you should think about it because look at what America has made legal in the passed. The only reason alcohol is legal now is because no one could stop it. Everyone was drinking and soon the same will be for weed.

Actually, Obama admitted to using both marijuana and cocaine during high school and college in his own book, Dreams of My Father. I think your hypocrisy is hilarious. You say that Nathan Hood’s comment about Obama was unnecessary and then go on to make a similar remark about “Dubya.” I guess it’s okay to make fun of a president that you don’t like but not okay to make fun of the one you do.

Boo…legal pot smoking in America will have to be celebrated at a later date…

What about alcohol? Alcohol is a thousand times more dangerous than cannabis is. The thresh hold for poisoning with alcohol is very low compared to its recreational effects. With cannabis… well have you ever heard of someone overdosing on weed? No, you haven’t. Because it has never happened. Because it cannot happen.

Cannabis is the safest and most effective drug for recreation, body pain, headaches, anxiety, depression, weight loss and so on. There is no medical or legal right or reason for cannabis to be illegal.

Look at the Netherlands. Cannabis is legal for sale and use in coffee shops in that country. People regularly buy and legally consume cannabis there. This country enjoys the lowest crime rates of any modern nation, and many attribute that to thier taxation and legal use of cannabis. Keep in mind that people are going to smoke pot, grow pot, and sell pot no matter what anyone in Washington DC says.

The majority of the population of our prisons are minor drug offenders, regularly for cannabis offenses, and to fit these non violent cannabis users in the prisons, they let go the rapists, the murderers, the wife beaters, the child abusers, they let all these people out so they can put behind bars people who like to smoke a joint here and again. There is no crime in using or dealing with pot, it hurts nobody. But making it illegal, it hurts many people, including the government by not being able to tax it.

Eventually all people, sober or pot head, will realize this, and the big brother-totalitarian-prohibition of cannabis, like that of alcohol, will end.

Obama has admitted to smoking cannabis. He was posed the question about whether or not he inhaled… “Well yea, that was point”. Aside from that he as admitted to former cocaine use. So no, while the cocaine portion of the above statement isn’t necessarily relevant to prop 19, it does demonstrate hypocrisy since I doubt anyone would argue that cocaine is legal. But as long as you don’t get arrested it’s ok and you can go on to be President of the (Less than) Free World… sigh. Hopefully America will defeat ignorance, and re-enact freedom (and stop legislating someones morality/profit agenda) someday. Maybe…

For the record, George Bush is a war criminal so please don’t try some petty comeback that deals with the false left-right paradigm. Thanks for your time…

There is a difference between trying a drug a few times, and being eaten up by it though addiction (which is what happens to alcoholic cocaine addicts like Dubya).

That distinction is quite clear and thats all I was saying.

That’s my argument as well. People need to open their eyes and see the reality of cannabis VS alcohol. One day like you said it will end and it will be legal.

I’m not an Obama fanboy by far, he has had his chances to make real changes as President over the past two years and is, in my eyes, a failure. He has followed in Bush’s foot steps more than he has done anything to help the american people. THAT might be part of why this law failed. People are willing to vote against any liberal agenda or democratic idea simply because the main liberal political figure, Obama, has failed to make the changes he promised. People are dissillusioned by the idea of ‘real’ freedom by the democratic party and instead voted for the “lapel pin’ freedom offered by the republicans. He has two years to get something done, and if it takes thirty pounds of cocaine to get Obama motivated and to point him in the right direction, then I hope every time I see him his nose is red and his eyes are bloodshot. I’m tired of the do nothing democrats and I”m tired of the screw-over-the-american-people-for-the-sake-of-big buisness republicans.

How about you shut your cock sucker and pull the dick out of your ass. Obama smoked gangja and did coke. SO WHAT?! ya Ozzy’s a burnout alright, he’s laughing all the way to the bank. While you sit there miserable because you have no friends in california. Fuck you, people like you are what’s wrong with this god forsaken country. Your all a bunch of brainwashed stuck up mother fuckers, who live how the government tells you. FUCK YOUR COUCH NIGGA. i mean it to. bitch.

fuck you and all you judge mental weed haters. fuck all of you.

definatly won’t be high street prices dick shit.

definatly won’t be high street prices dick shit.

go fuck your mother

thank you my friend.

thank you my friend.

It is ludicrous to do everything in one’s power to stop people from smoking cigarettes and cigars and then think that legalizing an addictive substance that ius smoked is a good idea – but then again most people who walk around stoned all day are generally not considered to be the best and brightest we have.

If you really want to have easy access to pot and the freedom to smoke it whenever and wherever you want to, move to Amsterdam.

It is ludicrous to do everything in one’s power to stop people from smoking cigarettes and cigars and then think that legalizing an addictive substance that ius smoked is a good idea – but then again most people who walk around stoned all day are generally not considered to be the best and brightest we have.

If you really want to have easy access to pot and the freedom to smoke it whenever and wherever you want to, move to Amsterdam.

Fuck your couch fag boy.

no, just pointing out the obvious difference that one is an addict and the other a former casual user.

just when i was thinking the comments on this sight are mature and intelligent…

You clearly have no idea who you’re talking to.

Miserable? You sound quite miserable yourself.

With an attitude like that you’ll have lots of boyfriends in prison.

There are plenty of reasons to legalize MJ. The least of those reasons is that “its not as bad as alcohol.” That still doesn’t make it good. The truth is it is good though. Its a poor mans medicine. If you didn’t have medicine as an option, most doctors would tell a sick person to eat some food and get some rest. Thats what MJ helps people do. If you smoke it occasionally you will get some nice insight from it. And it is safe b/c there have been zero deaths related to MJ. There are other more political reasons to legalize like we don’t have law enforcement resources to waste on such a petty crime and getting busted for it it affects the lives of many productive or would-be productive people. It is just a flower after all. Its simply crazy that a flower is illegal.

There are plenty of reasons to legalize MJ. The least of those reasons is that “its not as bad as alcohol.” That still doesn’t make it good. The truth is it is good though. Its a poor mans medicine. If you didn’t have medicine as an option, most doctors would tell a sick person to eat some food and get some rest. Thats what MJ helps people do. If you smoke it occasionally you will get some nice insight from it. And it is safe b/c there have been zero deaths related to MJ. There are other more political reasons to legalize like we don’t have law enforcement resources to waste on such a petty crime and getting busted for it it affects the lives of many productive or would-be productive people. It is just a flower after all. Its simply crazy that a flower is illegal.

There are plenty of reasons to legalize MJ. The least of those reasons is that “its not as bad as alcohol.” That still doesn’t make it good. The truth is it is good though. Its a poor mans medicine. If you didn’t have medicine as an option, most doctors would tell a sick person to eat some food and get some rest. Thats what MJ helps people do. If you smoke it occasionally you will get some nice insight from it. And it is safe b/c there have been zero deaths related to MJ. There are other more political reasons to legalize like we don’t have law enforcement resources to waste on such a petty crime and getting busted for it it affects the lives of many productive or would-be productive people. It is just a flower after all. Its simply crazy that a flower is illegal.

No need to be angry with Brian K. He’s never tried it so he doesn’t know. He’s willfully ignorant, you can’t talk to those kind of people.

I’m Pro decriminalization all the way…have been for 25 years. I voted against 19 as it’s a poorly written bill that gives local govnmt too much authority that will hurt the local growers and collectives. Let’s legalize it! Let’s tax it and help reduce the State deficit. Let’s make sure medical users have easy, affordable access. Let’s free up the prison system and release people doing time for cannabis-based crimes. Let’s grow it for personal use and enjoy its many uses. BUT, let’s make sure the laws around it are well written and supported by the people and politicians alike. Let’s get Federal, State and local government to agree on a plan that really works. It’s time!

now liberals see the universe in the same cartoon context that the repubs do. that’s what happens after 30 plus years of reagan-bush policies. for those libs still whining about obama doing “nothing” for 2 years a good civics lesson is in order. the president is not the king. he cannot do what he wants without cooperation from the congress and this is what he has not had. if people like you had given him this opportunity instead of not voting or spite voting for the opposition he would have had the power to move forward more rapidly. get real.

now liberals see the universe in the same cartoon context that the repubs do. that’s what happens after 30 plus years of reagan-bush policies. for those libs still whining about obama doing “nothing” for 2 years a good civics lesson is in order. the president is not the king. he cannot do what he wants without cooperation from the congress and this is what he has not had. if people like you had given him this opportunity instead of not voting or spite voting for the opposition he would have had the power to move forward more rapidly. get real.

get a real vocabulary.

Amen!

get a dictionary!!! use real words!!!

hey dumb fuck, its only been illegal since the 40′s the US GOVT. used to mass produce Marijuana for sales (military) and clothes for the soldiers. Look up a 1949 issue of Popular Mechs. said marijuana is the next biliion dollar crop. So sad to see your feeeble mind go to such waste. Tisk Tisk.. I bet you believe in Jesus too, So what would Horus do?

what an attention seeker.

If you read the Prob many people including those that cultivate and smoke Pot urged people to vote against it due to the limitations it put on growing and cultivitating. It would drive their profits down. So those that think everyone that thinks that the race was close due to people who really went through all aspects opf the prop are wrong. Those that educated themelves on it and didn’t just say yeah man legalize it that would be cool. Voted NO! Personally even after reading it, I think it would have been good for ecomonomy, crime and those even in the business against it should have voted yes, beacuse its a step in the right direction and even if they didn;t agree with the overall legistics it could have be revampted in future electiions. There is always going to be kinks and glitches that will have to be worked out.

If you read the Prob many people including those that cultivate and smoke Pot urged people to vote against it due to the limitations it put on growing and cultivitating. It would drive their profits down. So those that think everyone that thinks that the race was close due to people who really went through all aspects opf the prop are wrong. Those that educated themelves on it and didn’t just say yeah man legalize it that would be cool. Voted NO! Personally even after reading it, I think it would have been good for ecomonomy, crime and those even in the business against it should have voted yes, beacuse its a step in the right direction and even if they didn;t agree with the overall legistics it could have be revampted in future electiions. There is always going to be kinks and glitches that will have to be worked out.

If you read the Prob many people including those that cultivate and smoke Pot urged people to vote against it due to the limitations it put on growing and cultivitating. It would drive their profits down. So those that think everyone that thinks that the race was close due to people who really went through all aspects opf the prop are wrong. Those that educated themelves on it and didn’t just say yeah man legalize it that would be cool. Voted NO! Personally even after reading it, I think it would have been good for ecomonomy, crime and those even in the business against it should have voted yes, beacuse its a step in the right direction and even if they didn;t agree with the overall legistics it could have be revampted in future electiions. There is always going to be kinks and glitches that will have to be worked out.

If you read the Prob many people including those that cultivate and smoke Pot urged people to vote against it due to the limitations it put on growing and cultivitating. It would drive their profits down. So those that think everyone that thinks that the race was close due to people who really went through all aspects opf the prop are wrong. Those that educated themelves on it and didn’t just say yeah man legalize it that would be cool. Voted NO! Personally even after reading it, I think it would have been good for ecomonomy, crime and those even in the business against it should have voted yes, beacuse its a step in the right direction and even if they didn;t agree with the overall legistics it could have be revampted in future electiions. There is always going to be kinks and glitches that will have to be worked out.

If you read the Prob many people including those that cultivate and smoke Pot urged people to vote against it due to the limitations it put on growing and cultivitating. It would drive their profits down. So those that think everyone that thinks that the race was close due to people who really went through all aspects opf the prop are wrong. Those that educated themelves on it and didn’t just say yeah man legalize it that would be cool. Voted NO! Personally even after reading it, I think it would have been good for ecomonomy, crime and those even in the business against it should have voted yes, beacuse its a step in the right direction and even if they didn;t agree with the overall legistics it could have be revampted in future electiions. There is always going to be kinks and glitches that will have to be worked out.

Excuse me? I DID vote and I voted ALL democrat this election.

Don’t try to ‘lecture’ me on the system when the democrats had a complete majority. They had their chance, and they failed. How you ask?

First, they didnt prosecute Bush and his administration. There cannot be grave acts such as those commited by Bush that destroy America economically and which kill millions of civillians and for personal profit. When you fail to prosecute it says that it is OK to do these things. When Obama fails to prosecute these heinous acts, he is JUST AS GUILTY.

Second, Obama is continuing Bush’s agenda’s. He did get things passed, he continued he ‘bailouts’ he continued the tax cuts for the ultra wealthy.

There is no real ‘change’ with Obama at all. Laws are being passed, but they are NOT anything more than ‘buisness as usual’. Now he has blown his only chance and wont get anything done with a republican house. He is a failure. Him and that worthless Nancy Pelosi. You cant work with the republicans, its like trying to work with the mentally disabled, its a waste of time. You do what Clinton did, you work aournd them.

Excuse me? I DID vote and I voted ALL democrat this election.

Don’t try to ‘lecture’ me on the system when the democrats had a complete majority. They had their chance, and they failed. How you ask?

First, they didnt prosecute Bush and his administration. There cannot be grave acts such as those commited by Bush that destroy America economically and which kill millions of civillians and for personal profit. When you fail to prosecute it says that it is OK to do these things. When Obama fails to prosecute these heinous acts, he is JUST AS GUILTY.

Second, Obama is continuing Bush’s agenda’s. He did get things passed, he continued he ‘bailouts’ he continued the tax cuts for the ultra wealthy.

There is no real ‘change’ with Obama at all. Laws are being passed, but they are NOT anything more than ‘buisness as usual’. Now he has blown his only chance and wont get anything done with a republican house. He is a failure. Him and that worthless Nancy Pelosi. You cant work with the republicans, its like trying to work with the mentally disabled, its a waste of time. You do what Clinton did, you work aournd them.

Excuse me? I DID vote and I voted ALL democrat this election.

Don’t try to ‘lecture’ me on the system when the democrats had a complete majority. They had their chance, and they failed. How you ask?

First, they didnt prosecute Bush and his administration. There cannot be grave acts such as those commited by Bush that destroy America economically and which kill millions of civillians and for personal profit. When you fail to prosecute it says that it is OK to do these things. When Obama fails to prosecute these heinous acts, he is JUST AS GUILTY.

Second, Obama is continuing Bush’s agenda’s. He did get things passed, he continued he ‘bailouts’ he continued the tax cuts for the ultra wealthy.

There is no real ‘change’ with Obama at all. Laws are being passed, but they are NOT anything more than ‘buisness as usual’. Now he has blown his only chance and wont get anything done with a republican house. He is a failure. Him and that worthless Nancy Pelosi. You cant work with the republicans, its like trying to work with the mentally disabled, its a waste of time. You do what Clinton did, you work aournd them.

Excuse me? I DID vote and I voted ALL democrat this election.

Don’t try to ‘lecture’ me on the system when the democrats had a complete majority. They had their chance, and they failed. How you ask?

First, they didnt prosecute Bush and his administration. There cannot be grave acts such as those commited by Bush that destroy America economically and which kill millions of civillians and for personal profit. When you fail to prosecute it says that it is OK to do these things. When Obama fails to prosecute these heinous acts, he is JUST AS GUILTY.

Second, Obama is continuing Bush’s agenda’s. He did get things passed, he continued he ‘bailouts’ he continued the tax cuts for the ultra wealthy.

There is no real ‘change’ with Obama at all. Laws are being passed, but they are NOT anything more than ‘buisness as usual’. Now he has blown his only chance and wont get anything done with a republican house. He is a failure. Him and that worthless Nancy Pelosi. You cant work with the republicans, its like trying to work with the mentally disabled, its a waste of time. You do what Clinton did, you work aournd them.

Excuse me? I DID vote and I voted ALL democrat this election.

Don’t try to ‘lecture’ me on the system when the democrats had a complete majority. They had their chance, and they failed. How you ask?

First, they didnt prosecute Bush and his administration. There cannot be grave acts such as those commited by Bush that destroy America economically and which kill millions of civillians and for personal profit. When you fail to prosecute it says that it is OK to do these things. When Obama fails to prosecute these heinous acts, he is JUST AS GUILTY.

Second, Obama is continuing Bush’s agenda’s. He did get things passed, he continued he ‘bailouts’ he continued the tax cuts for the ultra wealthy.

There is no real ‘change’ with Obama at all. Laws are being passed, but they are NOT anything more than ‘buisness as usual’. Now he has blown his only chance and wont get anything done with a republican house. He is a failure. Him and that worthless Nancy Pelosi. You cant work with the republicans, its like trying to work with the mentally disabled, its a waste of time. You do what Clinton did, you work aournd them.

Excuse me? I DID vote and I voted ALL democrat this election.

Don’t try to ‘lecture’ me on the system when the democrats had a complete majority. They had their chance, and they failed. How you ask?

First, they didnt prosecute Bush and his administration. There cannot be grave acts such as those commited by Bush that destroy America economically and which kill millions of civillians and for personal profit. When you fail to prosecute it says that it is OK to do these things. When Obama fails to prosecute these heinous acts, he is JUST AS GUILTY.

Second, Obama is continuing Bush’s agenda’s. He did get things passed, he continued he ‘bailouts’ he continued the tax cuts for the ultra wealthy.

There is no real ‘change’ with Obama at all. Laws are being passed, but they are NOT anything more than ‘buisness as usual’. Now he has blown his only chance and wont get anything done with a republican house. He is a failure. Him and that worthless Nancy Pelosi. You cant work with the republicans, its like trying to work with the mentally disabled, its a waste of time. You do what Clinton did, you work aournd them.

Excuse me? I DID vote and I voted ALL democrat this election.

Don’t try to ‘lecture’ me on the system when the democrats had a complete majority. They had their chance, and they failed. How you ask?

First, they didnt prosecute Bush and his administration. There cannot be grave acts such as those commited by Bush that destroy America economically and which kill millions of civillians and for personal profit. When you fail to prosecute it says that it is OK to do these things. When Obama fails to prosecute these heinous acts, he is JUST AS GUILTY.

Second, Obama is continuing Bush’s agenda’s. He did get things passed, he continued he ‘bailouts’ he continued the tax cuts for the ultra wealthy.

There is no real ‘change’ with Obama at all. Laws are being passed, but they are NOT anything more than ‘buisness as usual’. Now he has blown his only chance and wont get anything done with a republican house. He is a failure. Him and that worthless Nancy Pelosi. You cant work with the republicans, its like trying to work with the mentally disabled, its a waste of time. You do what Clinton did, you work aournd them.

Excuse me? I DID vote and I voted ALL democrat this election.

Don’t try to ‘lecture’ me on the system when the democrats had a complete majority. They had their chance, and they failed. How you ask?

First, they didnt prosecute Bush and his administration. There cannot be grave acts such as those commited by Bush that destroy America economically and which kill millions of civillians and for personal profit. When you fail to prosecute it says that it is OK to do these things. When Obama fails to prosecute these heinous acts, he is JUST AS GUILTY.

Second, Obama is continuing Bush’s agenda’s. He did get things passed, he continued he ‘bailouts’ he continued the tax cuts for the ultra wealthy.

There is no real ‘change’ with Obama at all. Laws are being passed, but they are NOT anything more than ‘buisness as usual’. Now he has blown his only chance and wont get anything done with a republican house. He is a failure. Him and that worthless Nancy Pelosi. You cant work with the republicans, its like trying to work with the mentally disabled, its a waste of time. You do what Clinton did, you work aournd them.

Such a wide variety of comments on here. Ian Ralph – although we are on the same side regarding weed legalization, your attitude is deplorable and is counter-productive to an open, intelligent discussion. Nathan Hood – you also are not helping the discussion and are incorrect: the stoner youth came out in droves to vote for the legalization of MJ. Furthermore, it is commonplace for the youth to not show up on election day. This has nothing to do with young people being stoned, rather it has everything to do with maturity. By stereotyping your “friends” as lazy, stoned losers, you are furthering an improper stereotype which only gives merit to those who voted against a cause that you evidently agree with.

This was a positive step in the direction of ending marijuana prohibition. I actually thought it was going to pass, but for some reason it didn’t. It was REALLY close though guys, so we’ve got to be happy about that. The simple fact of the matter is that every generation becomes more and more knowledgeable about marijuana and aware of the lies and propaganda that criminalized MJ. I call it the “Reefer Madness mindset”, and once the greatest generation who fought in WWII and carry that propagandized mindset with them have faded away, MJ will become federally legal. Unfortunately that mindset will be around for another 10-20 years.

Regarding pot smokers being lazy, inefectual bafoons: that is a nonsensical stereotype. Most professional people including lawyers, doctors, politicians, real estate brokers, wall street executives, etc use MJ to some extent, some daily….like me (I own my own commercial RE firm and am successful). There are two strains of MJ: sativa and indica. Sativa is a lighter, airier high which actually gives you energy (daytime smoke) and Indica is a heavier, weighted high, which puts you to bed (sleepy time high). The Indica plant is easier to grow and the yields much more bud than a Sativa plant, therefore the weed we find on the streets is almost all Indica which is why stoners have a bad reputation. When MJ is used properly by someone who knows what they’re doing, they will smoke a Sativa during the day if they decide to smoke and an Indica at night before they go to bed. Many people who legitimately need MJ as a medicine, use it in just this way so they can get through the day without being lazy, apethetic do-nothings.

All of you who are against legalizing weed are ignorant as to what MJ actually is. I don’t mean that in a bad way, just an honest way. You really need to understand what MJ is before you go spewing your nonsense to anyone. MJ is not the enemy; MJ is part of the answer. END MARIJUANA PROHIBITION!!!

Marijuana is only about 1% of the mexican gang cartels income so I don’t think they care much if it became legal and I also don’t think it would have much affect on the violence down there. So, not much change in the cash flow dynamic down there.

You are completely clueless. Marijuana is proven to not be addictive. And in Amsterdam, it is not necessarily legal either. There are a few places you can go to smoke exotic marijuana from other parts of the world. You cannot walk out of the pot bars with any marijuana with you.

I STRONGLY recommend watching the documentary The Union: Business Behind Getting High. IT WILL CHANGE EVERYTHING YOU THINK YOU KNOW.

You are completely clueless. Marijuana is proven to not be addictive. And in Amsterdam, it is not necessarily legal either. There are a few places you can go to smoke exotic marijuana from other parts of the world. You cannot walk out of the pot bars with any marijuana with you.

I STRONGLY recommend watching the documentary The Union: Business Behind Getting High. IT WILL CHANGE EVERYTHING YOU THINK YOU KNOW.

screw it lets all get drunk after all it’s LEGAL!!
WTH are people thinking?

There actually is alot more to it than that. There are hundreds of ways cannabis and hemp can be used, to not only help medically but enviormentally as well. You don’t see alcohol or cigrettes being able to do that, yet it’s legal. I voted no on 19 merely for it’s poorly written, yet believe it would have been a step in the right direction. I am not a smoker, but have witnessed the outstanding medical use it has been used for in helping loved ones with cancer note being able to eat, or someone one going from popping harmful pain medication due to a horric accident not needing them at all now because smoking or eating ediebles with cannbis in it relieveing their pain far more effective that pain medications. Yes, there are those who abuse cannabis, just like those who abuse any other substance in this worlds even food, yet its all legal. I wish people would look and educate themselves on the facts rather than the stigma.

If mariquana is not addictive, then why can’t all of the loser stoners stop smoking it? I do not need a bunch of strung out pot heads driving down our streets endangering the lives of children and others. And if you want to say that people are doing it anyway, it doesn’t make it right. I don’t think people should be drinking and driving either and endangering lives. Why would we want to legalize something that we know is harmful in so many ways. All of the pot smokers need to grow up! Drugs are not good for you and never will be despite what your documentaries try to tell you.

Reefer Madness Mindset. Go educate yourself. Your knowledge is corrupted.

Damn, closer than ever … but still … whack as hell.

Damn, closer than ever … but still … whack as hell.

Alcohol is just as damaging and dangerous, but that doesn’t mean another dangerous substance should be allowed on our streets legally and endangering lives. That logic makes absolutely no sense what so ever. Just because there is something you consider “worse” that is legal, doesn’t mean all the loser potheads should legally be allowed to smoke their drugs.

I think it was a lack of information. Anti-marijuana rumors were spreading that children could buy it (how ridiculous), it would be in schools, people would be smoking it at lunch, etc. It wouldn’t be any different than alcohol with restricting sales to those over 21. Yes, there would be some abuse, but no more than alcohol; I think less. There needs to be more information/education promoting marijuana legalization so extremists are shown to be just that.

I think it was a lack of information. Anti-marijuana rumors were spreading that children could buy it (how ridiculous), it would be in schools, people would be smoking it at lunch, etc. It wouldn’t be any different than alcohol with restricting sales to those over 21. Yes, there would be some abuse, but no more than alcohol; I think less. There needs to be more information/education promoting marijuana legalization so extremists are shown to be just that.

I think it was a lack of information. Anti-marijuana rumors were spreading that children could buy it (how ridiculous), it would be in schools, people would be smoking it at lunch, etc. It wouldn’t be any different than alcohol with restricting sales to those over 21. Yes, there would be some abuse, but no more than alcohol; I think less. There needs to be more information/education promoting marijuana legalization so extremists are shown to be just that.

It might be a poorly written bill, but it would have been a good first step. I’m sure they could refine the law once its passed, the important thing would have been to get it passed. THAT would have been a much better start than not having it passed at all. I can’t imagine not voting for any law to legalize if I had the chance…

It might be a poorly written bill, but it would have been a good first step. I’m sure they could refine the law once its passed, the important thing would have been to get it passed. THAT would have been a much better start than not having it passed at all. I can’t imagine not voting for any law to legalize if I had the chance…

It might be a poorly written bill, but it would have been a good first step. I’m sure they could refine the law once its passed, the important thing would have been to get it passed. THAT would have been a much better start than not having it passed at all. I can’t imagine not voting for any law to legalize if I had the chance…

It might be a poorly written bill, but it would have been a good first step. I’m sure they could refine the law once its passed, the important thing would have been to get it passed. THAT would have been a much better start than not having it passed at all. I can’t imagine not voting for any law to legalize if I had the chance…

Reefer Madness Mindset. Go educate yourself. Your facts are corrupted.

Actually, those who walk around spewing incorrect facts and tossing out their opinion as bonified truth, are “not considered to be the best and brightest we have.” Thanks for playing though.

Oh I’m sorry, you are a successful business owner that smokes pot. Ok, that makes everything better. You are an embarrassment to society.

Oh I’m sorry, you are a successful business owner that smokes pot. Ok, that makes everything better. You are an embarrassment to society.

Oh I’m sorry, you are a successful business owner that smokes pot. Ok, that makes everything better. You are an embarrassment to society.

Oh I’m sorry, you are a successful business owner that smokes pot. Ok, that makes everything better. You are an embarrassment to society.

No, thats not true. Alcohol is MUCH MORE dangerous.

There are ZERO cannabis related overdoses in the history of mankind. However, there are thousands of alcohol related poisoning deaths per year from alcohol. There is absolutely no comparison. If you want to talk about legality of drugs per safety, alchol should be illegal, cannabis should be legal.

You obviously have an unreasonable bias towards the use of cannabis since you call cannabis users ‘loser potheads’, but there are many creative brilliant minds who regularly use marijuana. There are sick grandmothers who smoke pot. There are healthy, strong individuals who smoke cannabis. Cannabis is a drug, it is a medicine, and there is nothing wrong with using it.

If YOU dont want to, fine, but don’t tell us we cant just because you dont want to.

No, thats not true. Alcohol is MUCH MORE dangerous.

There are ZERO cannabis related overdoses in the history of mankind. However, there are thousands of alcohol related poisoning deaths per year from alcohol. There is absolutely no comparison. If you want to talk about legality of drugs per safety, alchol should be illegal, cannabis should be legal.

You obviously have an unreasonable bias towards the use of cannabis since you call cannabis users ‘loser potheads’, but there are many creative brilliant minds who regularly use marijuana. There are sick grandmothers who smoke pot. There are healthy, strong individuals who smoke cannabis. Cannabis is a drug, it is a medicine, and there is nothing wrong with using it.

If YOU dont want to, fine, but don’t tell us we cant just because you dont want to.

You can’t stop us. Pure and Simple. WE are a growing number of conscious aware citizens and we intend to take over your pathetic excuse of a “free democracy” as your towers of ignorance and corruption crumble at our feet. Marijuana is a plant which can bring heightened awareness to those who use it. It is a tool for awakening, just like mushrooms, just like peote, just like ayahuasca – that is why they are all “illegal”…

WE are the Perfect Beings shining our Light through the darkness, and LOVE and TRUTH cannot be stopped because that is all there really is. Everything else is an illusion.

You can’t stop us. Pure and Simple. WE are a growing number of conscious aware citizens and we intend to take over your pathetic excuse of a “free democracy” as your towers of ignorance and corruption crumble at our feet. Marijuana is a plant which can bring heightened awareness to those who use it. It is a tool for awakening, just like mushrooms, just like peote, just like ayahuasca – that is why they are all “illegal”…

WE are the Perfect Beings shining our Light through the darkness, and LOVE and TRUTH cannot be stopped because that is all there really is. Everything else is an illusion.

FYI, I also don’t drink. I don’t think people should drink and drive. Anything that alters your state of mind should not be legal to be on streets. It only is harming the safety of others who are not dependent on these items to make it through life. AND FYI, I was recently attacked while with my two young children (ages 3 and 1) by a “POT HEAD” who tried to enter my home and rape me. He had a medical mariquana card so could not be charged with the drugs. So, yes I do have an issue with loser potheads who should be at work, rather than at home, smoking dope and attacking young women and children.

FYI, I also don’t drink. I don’t think people should drink and drive. Anything that alters your state of mind should not be legal to be on streets. It only is harming the safety of others who are not dependent on these items to make it through life. AND FYI, I was recently attacked while with my two young children (ages 3 and 1) by a “POT HEAD” who tried to enter my home and rape me. He had a medical mariquana card so could not be charged with the drugs. So, yes I do have an issue with loser potheads who should be at work, rather than at home, smoking dope and attacking young women and children.

The government and the drug cartels will not allow this to pass. This is just another season of pacification by the powers that be for the lemmings of society. Do you still believe that the elections are real? Our democracy is a farce.

ya know I agree however I think I could have done without all those rotten mouth words. If you can’t have aa adult conversation learn how to talk like an adult. But I DO agree

ya know I agree however I think I could have done without all those rotten mouth words. If you can’t have aa adult conversation learn how to talk like an adult. But I DO agree

ya know I agree however I think I could have done without all those rotten mouth words. If you can’t have aa adult conversation learn how to talk like an adult. But I DO agree

You wouldn’t want it to pass because you wouldn’t want it to be grown,chemically fertilized, processed, packaged and shipped by Big Tobacco. We can’t trust them. ‘Nuff said.

I have but one question please!
Since when is what I eat, smoke,drink,carry car insurance, tickets for no seat belt in the car I bought and paid for became anyone else business in the first place? my lungs, my head AND windshield. Seems to me it should my choice?huh imagine that.

We have two recreational drugs now (cigarettes and alcohol). Please take a moment and think of all the health problems, social problems, damage to property and deaths due to accidents or suicide. We shouldn’t be adding to our problems with another vice.

I don’t believe it is right to stereotype all cannabis users based on the acts of one person. There are lots of people who hurt others and who do not work that DONT use cannabis. Keep that in mind.

The fact that cannabis is illegal does not stop its use. It causes more problems than it solves by demonizing the users of a safe and effective medicine.

An embarrasment to society? Look at yourself. Your blind hatred is an embarassment to the human race.

Get a grip of yourself and your addiction to drugs. Perhaps it’s time to look into rehab rather than legalizing your addiction.

There are also lots of people that can function in life without turning to drugs to get by. Keep that in mind.

Marijuana as medicine is fine but the conversation was proposition 19 recreational marijuana use.

I hate to say it, but it was our own doing, those who support the usage and benefits of marijuana, that caused this bill not to pass and we’ve set ourselves back another 10 years. It wasn’t about the actual legalization of the plant(not drug). It was about being heard; having a voice.

People were so caught up in the media propaganda that they failed to look at the true picture. The federal government would have overturned our proposition before it ever got put into practice. The fact is, the don’t have the balls to say to the people of this nation, the people they falsely imprisoned, to those who lost their homes, jobs, families,……..lives, “We’re sorry. We were wrong.” How would they? How can you apologize for 40 to 60 years of ignorance and naivety.

This is the reason medicinal was placed in front of marijuana in the first place. How can you say that what helps a patient like myself, wouldn’t have a similar effect on someone using it for recreational purposes?

I voted yes on Prop 19. Unfortunately, a lot of people who benefit from this crop, did not; out of greed. Growers, dealers, ignoramus who choose no because they think it’s written incorrectly. (BTW It can be amended like *SB 420* amended prop 215 to make the corrections on the mistakes made prior.) They are at fault. 500,000 votes? Are you kidding? L.A. alone could have covered that in dispensary workers who chose not to vote, as though the law would somehow force their businesses to close.

Anyways, I’m rambling. Maybe because I smoked a fat bowl to calm myself for the fact that we had our chance again and blew it. Last time was 1976. I wasn’t even alive then.

In conclusion, I’m disappointed in our so called “union.” We failed our own. We are the only ones effected by this. You, who voted NO, or didn’t vote at all, are trying to take away our voice. But, like the many minorities who became the majority before in the fight for rights, we will not tread lightly into the dark abyss. We will fight til our final breath. WE WILL HAVE OUR VOICE!

I hate to say it, but it was our own doing, those who support the usage and benefits of marijuana, that caused this bill not to pass and we’ve set ourselves back another 10 years. It wasn’t about the actual legalization of the plant(not drug). It was about being heard; having a voice.

People were so caught up in the media propaganda that they failed to look at the true picture. The federal government would have overturned our proposition before it ever got put into practice. The fact is, the don’t have the balls to say to the people of this nation, the people they falsely imprisoned, to those who lost their homes, jobs, families,……..lives, “We’re sorry. We were wrong.” How would they? How can you apologize for 40 to 60 years of ignorance and naivety.

This is the reason medicinal was placed in front of marijuana in the first place. How can you say that what helps a patient like myself, wouldn’t have a similar effect on someone using it for recreational purposes?

I voted yes on Prop 19. Unfortunately, a lot of people who benefit from this crop, did not; out of greed. Growers, dealers, ignoramus who choose no because they think it’s written incorrectly. (BTW It can be amended like *SB 420* amended prop 215 to make the corrections on the mistakes made prior.) They are at fault. 500,000 votes? Are you kidding? L.A. alone could have covered that in dispensary workers who chose not to vote, as though the law would somehow force their businesses to close.

Anyways, I’m rambling. Maybe because I smoked a fat bowl to calm myself for the fact that we had our chance again and blew it. Last time was 1976. I wasn’t even alive then.

In conclusion, I’m disappointed in our so called “union.” We failed our own. We are the only ones effected by this. You, who voted NO, or didn’t vote at all, are trying to take away our voice. But, like the many minorities who became the majority before in the fight for rights, we will not tread lightly into the dark abyss. We will fight til our final breath. WE WILL HAVE OUR VOICE!

I hate to say it, but it was our own doing, those who support the usage and benefits of marijuana, that caused this bill not to pass and we’ve set ourselves back another 10 years. It wasn’t about the actual legalization of the plant(not drug). It was about being heard; having a voice.

People were so caught up in the media propaganda that they failed to look at the true picture. The federal government would have overturned our proposition before it ever got put into practice. The fact is, the don’t have the balls to say to the people of this nation, the people they falsely imprisoned, to those who lost their homes, jobs, families,……..lives, “We’re sorry. We were wrong.” How would they? How can you apologize for 40 to 60 years of ignorance and naivety.

This is the reason medicinal was placed in front of marijuana in the first place. How can you say that what helps a patient like myself, wouldn’t have a similar effect on someone using it for recreational purposes?

I voted yes on Prop 19. Unfortunately, a lot of people who benefit from this crop, did not; out of greed. Growers, dealers, ignoramus who choose no because they think it’s written incorrectly. (BTW It can be amended like *SB 420* amended prop 215 to make the corrections on the mistakes made prior.) They are at fault. 500,000 votes? Are you kidding? L.A. alone could have covered that in dispensary workers who chose not to vote, as though the law would somehow force their businesses to close.

Anyways, I’m rambling. Maybe because I smoked a fat bowl to calm myself for the fact that we had our chance again and blew it. Last time was 1976. I wasn’t even alive then.

In conclusion, I’m disappointed in our so called “union.” We failed our own. We are the only ones effected by this. You, who voted NO, or didn’t vote at all, are trying to take away our voice. But, like the many minorities who became the majority before in the fight for rights, we will not tread lightly into the dark abyss. We will fight til our final breath. WE WILL HAVE OUR VOICE!

Here’s a fact: whether or not it’s legalized, people will still use cannabis. Why not give the government the ability to regulate it? At least this will raise tax revenues, open the doors for more laws against weed-related DUI’s, make it harder for kids to obtain (by increasing penalties for underage possession and providing it to minors) and make potency controllable. Not to mention, that the state will spend less incarcerating individuals over pot. Each prisoner costs the taxpayers about $47,000 a year (citation: http://www.lao.ca.gov/laoapp/laomenus/sections/crim_justice/6_cj_inmatecost.aspx?catid=3) Another huge benefit that has been overlooked is the simple fact that legalization takes power and money away from the cartels who sell cannabis (amongst other drugs) to fund the violence they perpetrate throughout the Americas. As long as marijuana stays on the black market, children have easier access to it, the government has little control over it and violent drug cartels reap profits from it.

Here’s a fact: whether or not it’s legalized, people will still use cannabis. Why not give the government the ability to regulate it? At least this will raise tax revenues, open the doors for more laws against weed-related DUI’s, make it harder for kids to obtain (by increasing penalties for underage possession and providing it to minors) and make potency controllable. Not to mention, that the state will spend less incarcerating individuals over pot. Each prisoner costs the taxpayers about $47,000 a year (citation: http://www.lao.ca.gov/laoapp/laomenus/sections/crim_justice/6_cj_inmatecost.aspx?catid=3) Another huge benefit that has been overlooked is the simple fact that legalization takes power and money away from the cartels who sell cannabis (amongst other drugs) to fund the violence they perpetrate throughout the Americas. As long as marijuana stays on the black market, children have easier access to it, the government has little control over it and violent drug cartels reap profits from it.

Here’s a fact: whether or not it’s legalized, people will still use cannabis. Why not give the government the ability to regulate it? At least this will raise tax revenues, open the doors for more laws against weed-related DUI’s, make it harder for kids to obtain (by increasing penalties for underage possession and providing it to minors) and make potency controllable. Not to mention, that the state will spend less incarcerating individuals over pot. Each prisoner costs the taxpayers about $47,000 a year (citation: http://www.lao.ca.gov/laoapp/laomenus/sections/crim_justice/6_cj_inmatecost.aspx?catid=3) Another huge benefit that has been overlooked is the simple fact that legalization takes power and money away from the cartels who sell cannabis (amongst other drugs) to fund the violence they perpetrate throughout the Americas. As long as marijuana stays on the black market, children have easier access to it, the government has little control over it and violent drug cartels reap profits from it.

Well said Michelle. Its a sad fact that MJ is still illegal for recreational use. One of these days the “Reefer Madness mindset” will dissolve into history and this time in our past will be known as marijuana prohibition….educate yourself and propagate truth to the ignorant!!!

obama is a loser then.

It is discrimination to keep Marijuana illegal and be tolerant of other far more damaging substances. Its time to make tobacco of all kinds and alcohol illegal. So much serious health disease has been cited by the medical profession and the surgeon general in connection with these drugs, yet they enjoy immunity and protection under the law. Perhaps this is because of the powerful lobby the controlling corporations have to persuade our elected representatives. Also perhaps because of the valuable tax revenues that help financially strapped states. Surely then, the same tax revenues derived from Marijuana could help balance the books and save states from bankruptcy? We need full disclosure from government on the reasons for this discrimination, perhaps a comparison of any benefits and negative impact of all three. Once seen in the clear light of day, the facts may point to Marijuana actually being the lesser of the “evils” and actually may be the most healthful and helpful in the long term. I have not used Marijuana myself, or smoked cigarettes, but I do drink alcohol. I believe in freedom of choice. We are not talking about crack cocaine or heroine here and our lack of real knowledge about all of these substances could be the cause of the problem. Perhaps the surgeon general can enlighten us?

It is discrimination to keep Marijuana illegal and be tolerant of other far more damaging substances. Its time to make tobacco of all kinds and alcohol illegal. So much serious health disease has been cited by the medical profession and the surgeon general in connection with these drugs, yet they enjoy immunity and protection under the law. Perhaps this is because of the powerful lobby the controlling corporations have to persuade our elected representatives. Also perhaps because of the valuable tax revenues that help financially strapped states. Surely then, the same tax revenues derived from Marijuana could help balance the books and save states from bankruptcy? We need full disclosure from government on the reasons for this discrimination, perhaps a comparison of any benefits and negative impact of all three. Once seen in the clear light of day, the facts may point to Marijuana actually being the lesser of the “evils” and actually may be the most healthful and helpful in the long term. I have not used Marijuana myself, or smoked cigarettes, but I do drink alcohol. I believe in freedom of choice. We are not talking about crack cocaine or heroine here and our lack of real knowledge about all of these substances could be the cause of the problem. Perhaps the surgeon general can enlighten us?

I wish we could magically put breathalyzers on all vehicle ignitions for just 1 month and immediately impose the maximum sentence for drunk driving to these hypocrites for trying to start their cars drunk.After half the working population is in jail for six months or whatever the law is in their state maybe they’ll learn to think with an open mind.Here’s my point, is it fair to say one is good and the other evil,anyone who drinks Alcohol and voted no on prop 19 is a hypocrite.Alcohol related fatalities for 2006 were 17,600 that doesn’t count all crippled and permanently injured or the people dying from liver cancer or the domestic abuse.What about the billions of dollars for police ,fire departments ,medical expenses ect… to deal with all this crap.To all who want it legal but voted no because you didn’t like the bill should slap yourselves because you are idiots too,bills are made to be revised .

The bill was to decriminalize it and tax it period.

not put it in vending machines next to elementary schools
not drive while smoking joints
not sell to minors

What are you idiots doing voting no? I hope you and all your kids end up Alcoholics with liver cancer.

I wish we could magically put breathalyzers on all vehicle ignitions for just 1 month and immediately impose the maximum sentence for drunk driving to these hypocrites for trying to start their cars drunk.After half the working population is in jail for six months or whatever the law is in their state maybe they’ll learn to think with an open mind.Here’s my point, is it fair to say one is good and the other evil,anyone who drinks Alcohol and voted no on prop 19 is a hypocrite.Alcohol related fatalities for 2006 were 17,600 that doesn’t count all crippled and permanently injured or the people dying from liver cancer or the domestic abuse.What about the billions of dollars for police ,fire departments ,medical expenses ect… to deal with all this crap.To all who want it legal but voted no because you didn’t like the bill should slap yourselves because you are idiots too,bills are made to be revised .

The bill was to decriminalize it and tax it period.

not put it in vending machines next to elementary schools
not drive while smoking joints
not sell to minors

What are you idiots doing voting no? I hope you and all your kids end up Alcoholics with liver cancer.

I wish we could magically put breathalyzers on all vehicle ignitions for just 1 month and immediately impose the maximum sentence for drunk driving to these hypocrites for trying to start their cars drunk.After half the working population is in jail for six months or whatever the law is in their state maybe they’ll learn to think with an open mind.Here’s my point, is it fair to say one is good and the other evil,anyone who drinks Alcohol and voted no on prop 19 is a hypocrite.Alcohol related fatalities for 2006 were 17,600 that doesn’t count all crippled and permanently injured or the people dying from liver cancer or the domestic abuse.What about the billions of dollars for police ,fire departments ,medical expenses ect… to deal with all this crap.To all who want it legal but voted no because you didn’t like the bill should slap yourselves because you are idiots too,bills are made to be revised .

The bill was to decriminalize it and tax it period.

not put it in vending machines next to elementary schools
not drive while smoking joints
not sell to minors

What are you idiots doing voting no? I hope you and all your kids end up Alcoholics with liver cancer.

Actually, it is better than drinking, has been proven to not be physically addictive, unlike cigarettes and alcohol, does not cause cancer or cirrhosis of the liver, and is proven to be non-violent, unlike alcohol. As far as medical side effects, both alcohol and cigarettes are much more detrimental to your health. And as for it being a “gateway drug”, the same cases where it is being portrayed as being such, both cigarette smoking and drinking preclude any marijuana use. So why aren’t they portrayed as the “gateway drug”, since usually one who progresses to harder drugs starts by smoking cigarettes and drinking first, and not by smoking marijuana? Oh, and just in case anyone is thinking the wrong thing about the motive here, I do not smoke, and haven’t for decades. I don’t foresee partaking anytime in the future either, unless medical conditions require me to do so.

Actually, it is better than drinking, has been proven to not be physically addictive, unlike cigarettes and alcohol, does not cause cancer or cirrhosis of the liver, and is proven to be non-violent, unlike alcohol. As far as medical side effects, both alcohol and cigarettes are much more detrimental to your health. And as for it being a “gateway drug”, the same cases where it is being portrayed as being such, both cigarette smoking and drinking preclude any marijuana use. So why aren’t they portrayed as the “gateway drug”, since usually one who progresses to harder drugs starts by smoking cigarettes and drinking first, and not by smoking marijuana? Oh, and just in case anyone is thinking the wrong thing about the motive here, I do not smoke, and haven’t for decades. I don’t foresee partaking anytime in the future either, unless medical conditions require me to do so.

If you are wanting the “perfect bill”, you will never get it. No bill that has ever been drafted and passed has been perfect. Think of it as a race with hurdles. YOU sound like one of the many who feel that weed being legalized is not worth the effort to help it over the first hurdle…getting it declared legal (no matter how the bill is written). The point was, to get the bill on the ballot, get it passed, therefore recognizing that the majority of the public WANT weed legalized for recreational use. AFTER the bill gets passed, then it is time to tweek it (amend the bill) so that the end result fits the intended purpose of the public. If you wait for a perfectly worded bill that has everything in it that you want, ie, X-amount of taxes per once, free prisoners, etc., then it will never be done in your lifetime. And once someone has been sentenced and their appeals are gone, they can not be released from prison just because a law was changed or abolished years later, and such a measure can not be written into a bill anyway. That crosses a line between judicial and legislative. Thanks to people like you, the prop didn’t pass…because you listened to all the anti-hype instead of your own heart and good sense.

If you are wanting the “perfect bill”, you will never get it. No bill that has ever been drafted and passed has been perfect. Think of it as a race with hurdles. YOU sound like one of the many who feel that weed being legalized is not worth the effort to help it over the first hurdle…getting it declared legal (no matter how the bill is written). The point was, to get the bill on the ballot, get it passed, therefore recognizing that the majority of the public WANT weed legalized for recreational use. AFTER the bill gets passed, then it is time to tweek it (amend the bill) so that the end result fits the intended purpose of the public. If you wait for a perfectly worded bill that has everything in it that you want, ie, X-amount of taxes per once, free prisoners, etc., then it will never be done in your lifetime. And once someone has been sentenced and their appeals are gone, they can not be released from prison just because a law was changed or abolished years later, and such a measure can not be written into a bill anyway. That crosses a line between judicial and legislative. Thanks to people like you, the prop didn’t pass…because you listened to all the anti-hype instead of your own heart and good sense.

If you are wanting the “perfect bill”, you will never get it. No bill that has ever been drafted and passed has been perfect. Think of it as a race with hurdles. YOU sound like one of the many who feel that weed being legalized is not worth the effort to help it over the first hurdle…getting it declared legal (no matter how the bill is written). The point was, to get the bill on the ballot, get it passed, therefore recognizing that the majority of the public WANT weed legalized for recreational use. AFTER the bill gets passed, then it is time to tweek it (amend the bill) so that the end result fits the intended purpose of the public. If you wait for a perfectly worded bill that has everything in it that you want, ie, X-amount of taxes per once, free prisoners, etc., then it will never be done in your lifetime. And once someone has been sentenced and their appeals are gone, they can not be released from prison just because a law was changed or abolished years later, and such a measure can not be written into a bill anyway. That crosses a line between judicial and legislative. Thanks to people like you, the prop didn’t pass…because you listened to all the anti-hype instead of your own heart and good sense.

When Obama was asked if he smoked, he said yes. When he was asked if he inhaled, he said “that was the point, wasn’t it?” Facts are facts…and just because you don’t like those facts, you really can’t just try to force people to not see them, use them, or repeat them. As for marijuana making people lazy, I guess you are saying that a majority of the US, as well as it’s military forces (yes, that’s right…over half of the US servicemen and women do smoke) are lazy…as well as the President of the United States.

By the way…nice turn of phrase, going from Obama to Dubya to Ozzy to try to shift focus. Umm….doesn’t work, unless a person really IS a “brain dead burnout”.

If George Bush is a “war criminal”, then Bill Clinton must be the worst. Under Bill Clinton, how many places did we actively have wars going? Somalia, Balkans, South America….etc. Under Bush, the was only one war in 2 theaters…but the same war against the same people for the same reasons. When Clinton lied, people died….he sent almost the whole stock of US cruise missiles into Iraq because “Saddam Husein poses an ongoing serious threat to the stability of the reagon, and refuses to cooperate with the U.N. Inspections”….while the Monica Lewinsky trial was going on, and Bill Clinton was “not having sexual relations with that woman”. Bush wasn’t a great president, but then we haven’t had one since Reagan.

If George Bush is a “war criminal”, then Bill Clinton must be the worst. Under Bill Clinton, how many places did we actively have wars going? Somalia, Balkans, South America….etc. Under Bush, the was only one war in 2 theaters…but the same war against the same people for the same reasons. When Clinton lied, people died….he sent almost the whole stock of US cruise missiles into Iraq because “Saddam Husein poses an ongoing serious threat to the stability of the reagon, and refuses to cooperate with the U.N. Inspections”….while the Monica Lewinsky trial was going on, and Bill Clinton was “not having sexual relations with that woman”. Bush wasn’t a great president, but then we haven’t had one since Reagan.

If George Bush is a “war criminal”, then Bill Clinton must be the worst. Under Bill Clinton, how many places did we actively have wars going? Somalia, Balkans, South America….etc. Under Bush, the was only one war in 2 theaters…but the same war against the same people for the same reasons. When Clinton lied, people died….he sent almost the whole stock of US cruise missiles into Iraq because “Saddam Husein poses an ongoing serious threat to the stability of the reagon, and refuses to cooperate with the U.N. Inspections”….while the Monica Lewinsky trial was going on, and Bill Clinton was “not having sexual relations with that woman”. Bush wasn’t a great president, but then we haven’t had one since Reagan.

If George Bush is a “war criminal”, then Bill Clinton must be the worst. Under Bill Clinton, how many places did we actively have wars going? Somalia, Balkans, South America….etc. Under Bush, the was only one war in 2 theaters…but the same war against the same people for the same reasons. When Clinton lied, people died….he sent almost the whole stock of US cruise missiles into Iraq because “Saddam Husein poses an ongoing serious threat to the stability of the reagon, and refuses to cooperate with the U.N. Inspections”….while the Monica Lewinsky trial was going on, and Bill Clinton was “not having sexual relations with that woman”. Bush wasn’t a great president, but then we haven’t had one since Reagan.

If George Bush is a “war criminal”, then Bill Clinton must be the worst. Under Bill Clinton, how many places did we actively have wars going? Somalia, Balkans, South America….etc. Under Bush, the was only one war in 2 theaters…but the same war against the same people for the same reasons. When Clinton lied, people died….he sent almost the whole stock of US cruise missiles into Iraq because “Saddam Husein poses an ongoing serious threat to the stability of the reagon, and refuses to cooperate with the U.N. Inspections”….while the Monica Lewinsky trial was going on, and Bill Clinton was “not having sexual relations with that woman”. Bush wasn’t a great president, but then we haven’t had one since Reagan.

Sure, people can function in some way without drugs. People with arthritis, chronic headaches, muscle pain, these are all symptoms that many people find to be alieved by cannabis. Why should people live in pain? Because YOU think they should live in pain? Obviously YOU want to hurt people by denying people in pain what makes them feel better. Wow, you’re a really great person arent you?

Addiction to drugs? See, that is your problem. You believe whatever propoganda the dea tells you to believe. I don’t even smoke pot!!! Not unless I feel I need to! Maybe I’ve had a hard day and need to relax. Maybe I have a headache and need some pain relief. But the last time I have smoked pot was months ago, and then months before that. So much for your ‘addiction’.

That’s why there is medical mariquana. Go see a doctor if you’re in pain!!! Give me a break, the millions of mariquana users (that are primarily college students) are not using it for pain. It’s recreational and THAT is the problem.

Agreed.

Many users, myself included, self medicate with marijuana. I dont have the time of money to go see the doctor for pot. I buy some and smoke it. What if asprin was illegal, would you go to the doctor to get a prescription for asprin? Hell no, you’d buy a quarter sack off the street. I also consider recreational use to be a psychological medicine as well. In those terms, cannibis as recreation is medicine.

Big tobbacco? I don’t think anyone who smokes pot is worried about that. Pot is so easy to grow that if anyone IS worried about that, they can grow thier own sticky sweet natural buds quite easily in thier backyard, enough to last all year in a few square feet of space.

Are you mad that I called out the hypocrisy of your beloved messiah Obama?

The point I was trying to make with him doing cocaine and marijuana is that he himself did it, so why and how could he possibly try to prevent us from using a substance that he previously used or still uses it? Even experimenting is illegal. If you stand in front of a cop and pull out a joint, even if you say you’re going to experiment, he/she WILL arrest you or cite you or take it away. It’s illegal on any level, so how dare he try to tell us about something he won’t even abide by.

Both cocaine and marijuana are illegal under federal laws. I’m not saying that cocaine is worse or better than mj, but I’m saying that both are illegal narcotics and used by him and he shouldn’t really be able to tell us how to run our lives if he won’t live under them. It’d be like these parents telling their kids not to smoke then pulling out a joint and smoking in front of them.

I was being 100% serious. The point about Obama using Cocaine and Marijuana is that BOTH are illegal narcotics. Using either is against federal laws. So for the leader to try and prevent us from using these while he, himself, used or probably still uses them, is quite hypocritical. I’m not saying that Cocaine is better or worse than Marijuana, just saying that he, himself, used and/or uses illegal narcotics.

Casual user or addict, doesn’t matter to the feds. If you do a pee test and you come back positive, you are classified as a drug user. I have some co-workers who only tried a drug, then had to take a drug test and failed. It didn’t matter that they were just experimenting, they used it and that was enough for law to say that they weren’t allowed to work under this population.

Wouldn’t you get upset that a politician would try and take something away from you do it for themselves or have done it for themselves? It’s like eating food in front of someone who can’t eat it and telling them that it’s gross. Yeah, it probably was gross, but I still wanted to have the chance of finding out for myself.

I was saying how SOME of us were too stoned or lazy to vote. I wasn’t saying that ALL were. I went out and voted as did many other Californians. I was just ranting about the stupidity of the few. They said that 3,800,000 voted no on it, and 3,300,000 voted yes. Doesn’t sound like alot of stoned people are lazy, only a small few and even then…some wanted too, but didn’t for whatever reasons. Don’t put words in my mouth I didn’t say.

Omg…it’s only a small few!!! 3,800,000 voted no on prop 19, while 3,300,000 voted yes on it. Doesn’t sound like ALL of us were too stoned or lazy now does it?

Quite pathetic that only 7.2 mill of the 37 mill population voted! My guess is because 70% of the state is illegal they can’t!

Being from another american country I was hoping to get this going on, as it did with same sex partners, this is just a matter of time, it would have been nice change started this year, we just have to wait for that 6% of old narrow minded to die and get some new voters that can make up their own minds on the subject and have not been brain washed by propaganda. The change is coming, hopefully all that money raised in taxes will increment the quality of the schools and living for the country and not for the narcotics kings all over the world.

Being from another american country I was hoping to get this going on, as it did with same sex partners, this is just a matter of time, it would have been nice change started this year, we just have to wait for that 6% of old narrow minded to die and get some new voters that can make up their own minds on the subject and have not been brain washed by propaganda. The change is coming, hopefully all that money raised in taxes will increment the quality of the schools and living for the country and not for the narcotics kings all over the world.

Being from another american country I was hoping to get this going on, as it did with same sex partners, this is just a matter of time, it would have been nice change started this year, we just have to wait for that 6% of old narrow minded to die and get some new voters that can make up their own minds on the subject and have not been brain washed by propaganda. The change is coming, hopefully all that money raised in taxes will increment the quality of the schools and living for the country and not for the narcotics kings all over the world.