Oh, real bright, California. Make having a little fun illegal, but tax the hell out of cancer patients (judging by the tax hikes on medical cannabis everywhere.) News flash, people…not legalizing won’t keep people from smoking. It just means when they toke, you won’t see a dime of it in taxes. Let’s hope it comes back in 2012, and voters are smart enough to see through the scare tactics and the federal government’s bluff, meant to intimidate.

voters are smart and that why they voted against it!

do you have kids anna marie? do you want stoned teachers teachers your kids ? wow what a great generation of kids. & dont act ignorant to fact that everyone will be high on the job!!

So Sad to see such uneducated people in these times. This shouldn’t have been illegal from the start , there shouldn’t even be a vote. When all these legal substances are far worse for society such as alcohol, prescription drugs,tobacco
an alternative such as pot would make so much sense. But alas I fear common sense has become a rare trait.

So Sad to see such uneducated people in these times. This shouldn’t have been illegal from the start , there shouldn’t even be a vote. When all these legal substances are far worse for society such as alcohol, prescription drugs,tobacco
an alternative such as pot would make so much sense. But alas I fear common sense has become a rare trait.

voting against a freedom

voting against a freedom

I know pretty well that if teachers wanted to come to class drunk, they could, legally. Would you like drunk teachers in class, tksweett? No? Then what makes you think that an employer couldn’t put the same restrictions on cannabis as they do alcohol? Same old scare tactic argument, and baseless. At least tell me you want to outlaw alcohol, and I won’t have to point out the hypocrisy of that logic.

I know pretty well that if teachers wanted to come to class drunk, they could, legally. Would you like drunk teachers in class, tksweett? No? Then what makes you think that an employer couldn’t put the same restrictions on cannabis as they do alcohol? Same old scare tactic argument, and baseless. At least tell me you want to outlaw alcohol, and I won’t have to point out the hypocrisy of that logic.

is everyone drunk on the job? no? then stop talking.

is everyone drunk on the job? no? then stop talking.

is everyone drunk on the job? no? then stop talking.

California doesn’t want to get out of debt

California doesn’t want to get out of debt

California doesn’t want to get out of debt

Makes me wonder if the votes are fake. There cant be more people against weed than for it.

Makes me wonder if the votes are fake. There cant be more people against weed than for it.

Makes me wonder if the votes are fake. There cant be more people against weed than for it.

Makes me wonder if the votes are fake. There cant be more people against weed than for it.

EXACTLY MY POINT ANNA! Well said!

EXACTLY MY POINT ANNA! Well said!

EXACTLY MY POINT ANNA! Well said!

EXACTLY MY POINT ANNA! Well said!

EXACTLY MY POINT ANNA! Well said!

Right…because the precinct full of people talking on their cell phones while voting was full of “smart” people. I’m willing to wager that 90% of California voters didn’t even research the candidates or propositions beyond that which was said on TV.

Right…because the precinct full of people talking on their cell phones while voting was full of “smart” people. I’m willing to wager that 90% of California voters didn’t even research the candidates or propositions beyond that which was said on TV.

Right…because the precinct full of people talking on their cell phones while voting was full of “smart” people. I’m willing to wager that 90% of California voters didn’t even research the candidates or propositions beyond that which was said on TV.

Right…because the precinct full of people talking on their cell phones while voting was full of “smart” people. I’m willing to wager that 90% of California voters didn’t even research the candidates or propositions beyond that which was said on TV.

do you want alcoholics teaching your children? I’d rather have my kids be taught by stoners than alcoholics any day.

do you want alcoholics teaching your children? I’d rather have my kids be taught by stoners than alcoholics any day.

do you want alcoholics teaching your children? I’d rather have my kids be taught by stoners than alcoholics any day.

do you want alcoholics teaching your children? I’d rather have my kids be taught by stoners than alcoholics any day.

do you have kids tksweett? do you want drunk teachers teachers your kids? wow what a great generation of kids. & dont act ignorant to the fact that everyone will be drunk on the job!!

do you have kids tksweett? do you want drunk teachers teachers your kids? wow what a great generation of kids. & dont act ignorant to the fact that everyone will be drunk on the job!!

do you have kids tksweett? do you want drunk teachers teachers your kids? wow what a great generation of kids. & dont act ignorant to the fact that everyone will be drunk on the job!!

do you have kids tksweett? do you want drunk teachers teachers your kids? wow what a great generation of kids. & dont act ignorant to the fact that everyone will be drunk on the job!!

do you have kids tksweett? do you want drunk teachers teachers your kids? wow what a great generation of kids. & dont act ignorant to the fact that everyone will be drunk on the job!!

Yea smart voters huh? Is that why we had 8 years of G.W. Bush? Of course!

Yea smart voters huh? Is that why we had 8 years of G.W. Bush? Of course!

Yea smart voters huh? Is that why we had 8 years of G.W. Bush? Of course!

Yea smart voters huh? Is that why we had 8 years of G.W. Bush? Of course!

Yea smart voters huh? Is that why we had 8 years of G.W. Bush? Of course!

@tksweett alcohol is legal but people can’t be drunk on the job…. Weed being “legal” doesn’t mean people can just parade around smoking and doing whatever they want. There will still be rules, just as with anything that is legal in our society.

@tksweett alcohol is legal but people can’t be drunk on the job…. Weed being “legal” doesn’t mean people can just parade around smoking and doing whatever they want. There will still be rules, just as with anything that is legal in our society.

@tksweett alcohol is legal but people can’t be drunk on the job…. Weed being “legal” doesn’t mean people can just parade around smoking and doing whatever they want. There will still be rules, just as with anything that is legal in our society.

@tksweett alcohol is legal but people can’t be drunk on the job…. Weed being “legal” doesn’t mean people can just parade around smoking and doing whatever they want. There will still be rules, just as with anything that is legal in our society.

@tksweett alcohol is legal but people can’t be drunk on the job…. Weed being “legal” doesn’t mean people can just parade around smoking and doing whatever they want. There will still be rules, just as with anything that is legal in our society.

wtf.

prop 19 doesn’t legalize teaching while high. similarly, the repeal of the 18th amendment didn’t make it legal to teach while drunk.

you’re an absolute moron.

wtf.

prop 19 doesn’t legalize teaching while high. similarly, the repeal of the 18th amendment didn’t make it legal to teach while drunk.

you’re an absolute moron.

wtf.

prop 19 doesn’t legalize teaching while high. similarly, the repeal of the 18th amendment didn’t make it legal to teach while drunk.

you’re an absolute moron.

wtf.

prop 19 doesn’t legalize teaching while high. similarly, the repeal of the 18th amendment didn’t make it legal to teach while drunk.

you’re an absolute moron.

wtf.

prop 19 doesn’t legalize teaching while high. similarly, the repeal of the 18th amendment didn’t make it legal to teach while drunk.

you’re an absolute moron.

wtf.

prop 19 doesn’t legalize teaching while high. similarly, the repeal of the 18th amendment didn’t make it legal to teach while drunk.

you’re an absolute moron.

Do people come to work all the time drunk because alcohol is legal?

Do people come to work all the time drunk because alcohol is legal?

Do people come to work all the time drunk because alcohol is legal?

Do people come to work all the time drunk because alcohol is legal?

Do people come to work all the time drunk because alcohol is legal?

Nice slippery slope there.

Nice slippery slope there.

Nice slippery slope there.

Nice slippery slope there.

keeping marijuana illegal just keeps the Ca pones aka the drug cartel

No, voters are ignorant. Please watch the video documentary called “The Union” then tell me who’s actually smart, thank you.

..as smart as you? that can’t even write a sentence properly.. ie “and that why”.. Smart or doing what their told.

How do you feel about drunks teaching your kids? Alchohol is legal, how many drunk teachers do your kids have?

I hate the ignorance and the fear of these people who are letting such a great opportunity to waste. Shame on all of you who have someone in your family with a DUI from booze or throat cancer from smoking tobacco. This is something that gives adults another choice for recreation, the ability to correctly educate our children so they may make their OWN decisions and not to mention the financial benefit to this country in our time of need. “3 symptoms weed causes….Hungry, Happy and Sleepy” got drown in a bottle of Jack Daniels you conservative fucks.

Liberty is what is becoming rare, my friend.

Yah like California voters are gonna see the money anyways too Pot smokers are criminals because it is a FEDERAL LAW and NOT TO MENTION IF ITS PASSED TO LEGALIZE IT WHOS TO SAY THEY ARE GOING TO FOLLOW THE RULES OF THE LAW!!! THEY DONT LISTEN NOW!?!

Alcohol is legal, but you don’t see teachers coming in drunk on the job. Why would this be any different?

I would rather have stoned peaceful talkitive funny teachers than mean angry fighting drunk ones.

alcohol is legal but teachers don’t drink on the job (and if they do, they are punished).
just because something is legal doesn’t mean it will be used constantly and recklessly.

anna marie , by the way you wouldnt see a dime ? have you ever with any ridiculous things like this and is a small shiny little dime worth it . dont think so tax something else they’ll find something how about the people behind bars the criminals that hurt kids why should they be treated so well they are living better than 1/2 the people on the streets of los angels. its reaaly stupid just like your comment

Thats all we need is a new generation of kids growing up who cant even spell there names and cant remember what they did 5 minutes ago cause all they do is smoke weed all day and be lazy. That would really benefit America huh? Were lazy enough already as a country then to legalize MJ for recreational use. LOL

You’re ignorant.

“Everyone will be high on the job? stoned teachers teaching your kids?”
Is everyone where you’re from drunk? Are all the teachers alcoholics just because alcohol is legal?
Did you know that alcohol is the most abused drug and causes the second most casualties every year behind tobacco? I’ll bet you didnt know that smoking marijuana has NEVER killed a single person. Dont believe me? look it up… idiot

Please, teachers would be held accountable for their behavoir even if the bill passes. Scare tactics are so jouvenile and should be saved for national politics when more people are happily lead down the wrong trail by a bunch of fear mongers.

alcohol is legal but teachers aren’t teaching drunk everyday. don’t be stupid tks just because its legal doesn’t mean everyone is going to start getting high.

At least that “stoned” teacher will have enough grammatical skills to know that teachers TEACH kids.

I fucking love how the person who was for prop 19 spoke in complete sentences with little to no punctuation or grammar issues. The people who are against it however couldn’t even bother with captials. “Teachers teachers your kids”? “And that why”? A’duuuuuuuurf!! I’m glad I didn’t have YOUR teachers.

Alcohol is legal – does that mean everyone walks around drunk all the time? And guess what, if people want to get high illegally it’s easy enough to anyway. For all you know your kids teachers are already stoners, or drunks for that matter.

tksweett

you moron, im sure if its legalized it would still be illegal to be “intoxicated” on the job, like drinking.
besides, its not like your kids dont already have stoned teachers. dont be so naive.

That’s the exact statistic fact, good job Daniel

wtf….alcohol is legal…..do you want drunk teachers teaching your kids…????? just because weed is illegal doesn’t stop any teachers (if they do toke) from being high on the job…..but i don’t think many teachers do get high on the job……the amount of people that get high on or right before the job isn’t going to increase if it is legalized….ppl do that shit regardless of what the law is…..are you fucking retarded…??

what about the LAW OF MANKIND???

Leave it to America to do the wrong thing. What a bunch of hicks. It’s good to live in Canada. We actually decriminalized it in 2004, then thanks to US promises of trade taxes we revoked it. I was wishfully hoping maybe in California where people are more open minded it would have passed and some progress would have been made. Just goes to show only the old farts vote in the USA. Where were all those 20 somethings who would have made it a landslide in favor of prop 19?? Oh wait I know texting on their iphones and eating fast food. Too bad people can’t vote online thru witter and facebook maybe that would get the under 30 generation on board. What a joke. lol

“do you want stoned teachers teachers your kids?” who’s the stoned one here? ALSO: do you HONESTLY think that by legalizing marijuana everyone is going to IMMEDIATELY go out and get stoned? The majority of people I know could easily purchase and/or partake of it any basically any given moment but they have a little something called WILLPOWER. Obviously arguing any point in regards to this subject is a waste of time…much like trying to convert someone.

Do you have a brain TKS ? same laws would apply to smoking pot as alcohol or any other legal drug. You couldn’t go to work intoxicated before and you wouldn’t be able to if this was legalized. I don’t even smoke but I understand the economical advantages to this. How would schools fair with more money coming in? . . . that is what i thought. Everyone has a right to vote I just wish they would think before they do it.

It looks like you may have been taught by stoner teachers tksweett… If your going to try and make a point like that, maybe you should try checking your grammer… If you have read into this prop at all, then you would see that it actually will keep pot out of the kids hands. It lowers the amount of dealers that try to push marijuana in the schools. Not to mention the amount of tax revenue…

I sure don’t want stoned teachers teachersing my kids. Go back to school.

>los angels

retard!! just like alcohal, i assume they would make laws of when u cant and can smoke it like not around minors under 21, cant drive under the influence, and im sure no employer would want some one incapacited on the job come on be realistic!

Lmfao really? You realize teachers can’t show up to school under the influence of anything right? That wouldn’t change if marijuana was legalized, it would just be treated like alcohol. Meaning there would be age restrictions and probably things dealing with public intoxication, so if a teacher did show up high, they would be fired.

oh yea sure voters are smart that explain why bush served two terms. He was such a GREAT president!

Majority of hippies in the 60′s are millionairs today.

Don’t forget about republican and evangelical central and southern California

And how about those tax dollars going to feeding, clothing and housing cannabis smokers? Did you consider that maybe those tax dollars would be saved, if it were legal? And before saying my comments are stupid, please use your spell check. I’d hate for you to embarrass yourself.

Nice stereotypical response relating to an outdated stereotype, jerk.

That was to Tksweett by the way

HA

fuck you daniel, you fag…….if you had any brains at all you would have voted yes on 19, bitch….fucking retard

tax it and while were at it why not legalize all drugs then why just MJ? Seeing as how the government could put restrictions on it. LMAO

Tksweet your argument is probably the worst argument for keeping drugs illegal I have ever heard. I am very disappointed that I live in a state with people like you, but it does explain the perpetuation of expensive ineffective and useless laws that keep drugs illegal and turns innocent people into criminals.

I have to say that tksweett, should’ve probably gotten a LIL more education. But thanks for the try. The fact is Prop 19 is just a ploy for the government and/or california’s government to stick their greedy hands into the pockets of the people once more after seeing how much the medical field has made since the induction of Prop 215 in 1996.
Sorry but I support the legalization of Marijuana, and I absolutely 100% do not support Prop 19.

Spell “their” names…not “there” names

http://thenewleaf.org/

if youre gonna be an ignorant bitch why dont you be an informed ignorant bitch?

Like you have great grammar. Look up proper ways to use their/there/they’re. I have used medical marijuana for years, and I have been employed the entire time. Let’s not generalize!

How do you figure “everyone” will be high on the job? This country was built on cannabis, its a plant, its natural and not going anywhere. And guess what, legal or not there are plenty of stoned teachers already doing a fine job.

Yes, because being stoned on the job totally WON’T get you fired (I’m being extremely sarcastic if that’s not obvious). Just because it’s legal doesn’t mean it’s ok to just get stoned everywhere, just like how it’s not ok to just be drunk everywhere. And really, if you wanted to make a point that people might actually take seriously, you should really use proper grammar and capitalization. It at least gives the facade of intelligence.

Alcohols legal. What about a bunch of drunk teachers teaching your kid? Teachers would get fired anyway for being high. Think about it

Alcohol is legal…do you see drunk teachers everywhere? Do you see people drunk on the job everywhere? Pot would be regulated the same as alcohol. Talk about ignorant!!! Why dont you pull your head out of your butt and see the truth?

P.S. Check your spelling. Teachers teachers? Maybe you were taught by a drunk teacher.

Your reply is poorly written and doesn’t make sense. What exactly is the point you tried and failed to make?

what’s wrong with teachers being high while teaching anyways…??? anyone who smokes bud cannot see, from a logical and real life perspective, how that would be bad……..

well with you living a life “dope” free, you seemed to really nail your grammar, huh…

in case you haven’t noticed the generation of idiots start with you.

Oh, and exactly how do people who smoke a spliff compare to people who ‘hurt children’? Those people who eat Cheetos and watch lots of TV sure are scary, aren’t they? And if prisoners live better than half the people on the street….well, by keeping it illegal, aren’t we giving smokers free housing? Is that what you wanted with your ‘No’ vote?

We have enough lazy people here that we don’t need another reason to “chill” I spent years smoking, coming up with all the solutions for so many problems. I didn’t act on anything until I quit getting high. I, like the majority of those in favor, don’t have a medical condition that would warrant the need. And let me ask this, street price now is set. The push behind the legalization is to generate income for CA in the form of a tax. So my question is, the street price would not go down meaning the tax would be on top of current prices so with most employers having a wage freeze how do you propose people pay for the inflated product? By not spending in other places? Save a few bucks here and there and don’t support legal businesses as much then you can buy a more expensive yet same quality product without the fear of getting busted? That way you can “bake out” on the couch in peace and realize you are just the “added tax” short of paying your bills? That’s “Stoner Logic” no offense but quitting smoking weed was the smartest thing I ever did. To all those medically suffering, you have my sympathy. Legalizing will only create an even lazier, laid-back, CA. One man’s opinion.

By the sounds of it you are either stupid or too stupid to realize that you are stupid. “do you want stoned teachers teachers your kids”? Well i would rather have a stoned teacher rather than one that can’t teach at all.

tkswett – Just because alcohol is legal doesn’t mean that teachers drink on the job. Don’t be ridiculous.

Tell that to the families of the people killed each year by the Mexican drug cartel, or the ones abducted and forced to work harvesting the “illegal” substance…if legal, the gangs have nothing to make money on genious…ur one to call people’s comments stupid.

I bow down to you Anna Marie.

Thank you for putting these ignorant people in their place. I don’t smoke anymore, not because I can’t (my job really doesn’t care) I just choose not too but I am totally for legalizing.

Power to the people!

Never gonna pass anyway so who cares? LMAO

Drinking is legal, why aren’t all teachers drunk?

Oh right, because it’s still a bad idea. Laws don’t make something bad, something bad is made illegal (in theory)

You would have been more convincing if your grammar didn’t make it seem like you were high writing that statement.

dude fo real, how many teachers come to school drunk as it is right now?
legalizing bud would be the best thing for this country. because then america could stop wasting theyre money on trying to bust dealers, when they dont even get half of them in the first place. if you actually had any common sense at all, you would realize how much the crime rate would go down. right now, marjuana related felonies take up 12-16% of americas in total. this would be a breakthrough for all of us, resulting in lower taxes because the gov wont use so much cash on trying to bust people for shit that so many people do, and they will get more money out of taxing bud. 2+2=4 dude, think about it.

Are you stoned writing this?
“do you want stoned teachers teachers your Kids ?”

If weed was bad for you why is it prescription medicine. You cant overdose, not addictive like pain killers. Nicotene addictive and will kill same with alcohol and neither can be precribed as medicine yet they are better? I just dont get it.

I agree. You congressmen who have made the laws for drinking and driving and clean air laws for smoking should know this, yet here we stand criminalized in all aspects as you enjoy your highballs or 7 and 7′s at your desk then drive home with a slight buzz. The hypocrisy of this nation is disgusting. All this for your personal vendetta’s against a plant and those that smoke it.

Hey tksweett sound like everyone here agrees your point of view is a perfect example of ignorance that patients like myself are dealing with. Go fuck yourself.

Ok well if you people are that ignorant to think people would not smoke & drive & do the same dumb stuff they do on alcohol like drive & smoke on the streets in alleys where kids already know what it is & can access alcoh then , do you really think they wouldnt do the same with marajuana. Even my 15 year old daughter has said she has a whe school full of kids who can get it. Will just make it easier & even if the dam teacher isnt high on campus, what kind of re models would they be. But anyways like you said better luck next time right. Lol

Tee

think about it Cali your tax dollars are going to non-violent drug offenders instead of the weed purchasers tax going to roads, schools, hospitals those who oppose this bill support non violent criminals . I mean dont you see how much this bill really affects your economy and quality of living? Potheads paying your taxes whats wrong with that plus all the out of state citizens would come to Cali and pay a ration of your taxes

Liberty? What do you know about liberty? Liberty is why you have the right to send messages back and forth on the this web site. Has absolutely nothing to do with smoking weed.

your point just got dis-proven about 100 times. I sincerely hope you realize how ignorant and closed minded your comment sounded. How about we do a little research on something the next time we feel like shooting our mouth off about something. Okay? Marijuana should be treated just like alcohol, if anything I think that alcohol is extremely more hazardous to your health. And just for the record, none of my teachers ever showed up under the influence of alcohol.

They do already and have for hundres of years. You came up alright.

tksweett – your argument is a very weak one at best. Like Anna Marie said, There is nothing stopping a teacher from showing up to a school right now to teach kids while he/she is drunk or high. Also, if you would have read through Prop 19 you would be aware that it would not legally alow you to smoke in public or be around children while smoking or being under the influence of smoking. Lets say that a teacher comes into class under the influence of marihuana, what actions would be taken? The same actions that would be taken with a teacher that were to show up to a classroom under the influence of acohol or any other legal or illegal substance. You are looking at the situation in a very narrow and very negative way.

totally realized tksweet was a troll

Prob cause all the f;n stoners wouldn’t go out and vote! California needs this shit right now and besides its less harmful than cigarettes and doesn’t have the negative effects like alcohol . No reason we shouldn’t be able to light it up. I ain’t a smoker but I would if I could and why not let them make a few mill off people like me and put it in areas we need it like our public school systems which is failing everyone right now. Disappointed in my people!

OK, First of all; the legalization and taxation of Marijuana in the United States would decrease national deficit almost immediately. Jails would be more productive due to the fact that there aren’t a bunch of people taking up space for simply ‘smoking a little pot’ Police could focus on finding murderers, rapists, and real drug dealers instead of worrying about Marijuana. Have you ever been to a hospital and saw a no-smoking sign? It would simply translate into Marijuana as well. It’s a personal choice, and you need to respect that. Calling someone dumb or stupid, simply causes you to look that way. Place a dignified, politically relevant comment, or get off the page.

You’re so horrible with syntax that I can’t even understand what you are trying to say but from a few cues I feel it is against personal freedom? I’m high on marijuana right now (very effective prohibition laws) and I’m more comprehensible than you.

they do already.

You had plenty of grammatical errors in your statement rockstar22. “who can’t even spell THEIR names”, and you meant to say “WE’RE ALREADY lazy enough as a country, THAN to legalizize…” and so on and so on…..seems like you smoked a little “MJ” throughout your life!

You can’t just vote for the legalization of Marijuana just for weed to be legal. It is not that simple. I am not a hippy but I have heard that tobacco companies have bought land in nor cal waiting for this to pass. We need it to be de-criminalized, and let it become only a local thing. Having corporations come in will ruin everything, even possibly putting harmful chemicals in the weed.
It’s so complicated. :’(

…your children are already being taught by stoned teachers, and they’re doing just fine.

maybe tksweett should get some teachers teachers him/her about why prop 19 needs to get passed, and why keeping it illegal is what causes all the problems associated with the underground drug trade.

good for you robert. this means you are not suffering from a chemical imbalance. I don’t smoke and never will, but I think it would be great for the state, and lower crime. Let people get high and drunk if they want…who cares. Let’s just make a little extra money in the process.

Gimme a F’n break! is that your best excuse to not pass this bill!

You misspelled “faring” you moron

teachers teachers teachers

So far, 56% of the population in California are morons. And I have not heard 1 good reason to oppose the legalization and taxation of pot. Not 1.

Robert – Since it, like any drug, affects everyone differently, the fact that it made you lazy and ‘baked’ doesn’t mean it has the same effect on everyone, and there are different types which have different effects. The legalization would mean that there would be no ‘street dealers’, so no price would be ‘set’ — it would be set by local retailers, and counties based on their tax rates. If that’s what you mean.

Oh & anita if u really think the $$ from drugs for schools is really gpnna happen. Schools are always last on list. Oh and wow what a great thing to tell students ” all these new books were possible due to the tax paid on weed” you sound like such a genious. & i know plenty of people who smoke & still think thats just ridiculous. Anyways done with this conversation. Bye

Tee

I hope you understand that marijuana does not make people dumb. In fact when i started smoking weed, i found my gpa went from a .8 to a 3.0. It let me calm down enough to concentrate, and think more clearly. Most false statement of my like tksweett. And teachers at schools drink on the job and use morphine patches at my school. They still have a great passing rate.

My mom has MS and doesn’t smoke weed even though I think it would do a world of good for her pain. If it is legalized she still wouldn’t smoke it. I don’t smoke now and nor would I if it is legal. If people are going to smoke, they already do. Legalizing pot is not going to change anything other than make money for the state and clean up jails and prisons. Please people, stop being scared by misinformation.

Maybe if a stoned teacher was heading your class, when you were a child, you might have better grammar…. Dip shit.

i have to support tksweett here. alcohol is very easy to test, through breathalizers, or simple coordination tests. legalizing marijuana would make it more difficult for employers to catch their employees smoking out on the job.

“you look like you’re high!”
“well..i’m just sleepy”
“oh. carry on then.”

also, as to Daniel Myers, you’re right. the level of THC in one’s body hasn’t been known to kill someone, but one’s actions as a result of being high has, so that argument is moot.

legalizing marijuana will make it easier for kids to obtain weed. i’m not saying they can’t now, but it is MORE difficult now, at least. this is definitely not something that we, as responsible voting aged adults should have on our conscience. it appears that the costly, labor intensive screening methods will end up making taxpayers pay more money in the long run.

my two cents.

mmmkay-Mr. Mackey

Your right I grew up in the bay area where we out number everyone an yet havent found someone who against prop 19. Drive north to the border and everyone will say they want to end this stupid law.

LEGALIZE MJ
we got people dying from oxycontin
xanax, (PRESCRIPTION DRUGS)!! n they are mostly teens!
GOVERNMENT TRYS TO SCARE N DID 4 THE OLDER GENRATION…

Hey, don’t worry people. Maybe it gets shot down today, but it’s on the ballot, a step in the direction of getting passed. Maybe we have to take these things in steps, but eventually it’s gonna pass when people realize that weed is only as big a problem as alcohol and cigarettes. And I’d rather smell a weed cigarette than a tobacco cigarette any day.

cmon man, your not helpin yourself out here. she said she can already get it in school, and its illegal and everybodies tryin ta hide it. if its legal, people can be free about weed. and obviously, you realize people drink and drive and smoke and drive, so ask yourself this: what would even be the difference if its already being done now?

tksweett… If your trying to make arguments you need to at least attempt to sound educated. You make no sense. Instead of basing your comments on a thorough review of the subject, you make assumptions based on outdated rhetoric (rhetoric is a form of argument if you need a little refresher) widely known to be faulted and useless. If you could just allow yourself to really look into the effects of marijuana on society you will see that you are far mistaken. P.S. I’m high right now

Smartest comment so far.

Everyone is just angry because now hey won’t have a local market to go buy some mary j. Too bad suckers, time to go to your local drug dealer hahaha!

How would it make it easier for kids to obtain weed? It’s easier now that it would be if it was regulated and required ID. Drug dealers don’t ID.

How would it make it easier for kids to obtain weed? It’s easier now that it would be if it was regulated and required ID. Drug dealers don’t ID.

Alcohol was recently just proven to be more impairing than someone on crack, ecstasy, or heroin . Hope you were aware enough to know that too, but i guess not, since your thoughts on marijuana are completely 50 years of research off.

Alcohol was recently just proven to be more impairing than someone on crack, ecstasy, or heroin . Hope you were aware enough to know that too, but i guess not, since your thoughts on marijuana are completely 50 years of research off.

Everyone will be high on the job? So you will be high on the job? How about you try a good ol’ dose of STFU!

Everyone will be high on the job? So you will be high on the job? How about you try a good ol’ dose of STFU!

Nor are you with your incorrect use of the word ‘their.’

Nor are you with your incorrect use of the word ‘their.’

The US of A is becoming such a joke around the world. Even your left wing party is regressive. The 60′s are definitely dead I’d say. Obama is a moderate Republican, you have a 2 party system where both party’s are very similar, you all still fear god and have no motivation to try and be progressive. I know there are millions of American people who want big changes, the problem is all you guys ever do is talk about it. Nobody hits the streets and takes action anymore. Maybe you should all start watching BBC news and see what people in France and Greece do when they are mad at the government.

The US of A is becoming such a joke around the world. Even your left wing party is regressive. The 60′s are definitely dead I’d say. Obama is a moderate Republican, you have a 2 party system where both party’s are very similar, you all still fear god and have no motivation to try and be progressive. I know there are millions of American people who want big changes, the problem is all you guys ever do is talk about it. Nobody hits the streets and takes action anymore. Maybe you should all start watching BBC news and see what people in France and Greece do when they are mad at the government.

The US of A is becoming such a joke around the world. Even your left wing party is regressive. The 60′s are definitely dead I’d say. Obama is a moderate Republican, you have a 2 party system where both party’s are very similar, you all still fear god and have no motivation to try and be progressive. I know there are millions of American people who want big changes, the problem is all you guys ever do is talk about it. Nobody hits the streets and takes action anymore. Maybe you should all start watching BBC news and see what people in France and Greece do when they are mad at the government.

tksweett… If your trying to make arguments you need to at least attempt to sound educated. You make no sense. Instead of basing your comments on a thorough review of the subject, you make assumptions based on outdated rhetoric (rhetoric is a form of argument if you need a little refresher) widely known to be faulted and useless. If you could just allow yourself to really look into the effects of marijuana on society you will see that you are far mistaken. P.S. I’m high right now

tksweett… If your trying to make arguments you need to at least attempt to sound educated. You make no sense. Instead of basing your comments on a thorough review of the subject, you make assumptions based on outdated rhetoric (rhetoric is a form of argument if you need a little refresher) widely known to be faulted and useless. If you could just allow yourself to really look into the effects of marijuana on society you will see that you are far mistaken. P.S. I’m high right now

tksweett… If your trying to make arguments you need to at least attempt to sound educated. You make no sense. Instead of basing your comments on a thorough review of the subject, you make assumptions based on outdated rhetoric (rhetoric is a form of argument if you need a little refresher) widely known to be faulted and useless. If you could just allow yourself to really look into the effects of marijuana on society you will see that you are far mistaken. P.S. I’m high right now

Your right, I’m the only one it made lazy. Let me ask, are you a liberal?

Your right, I’m the only one it made lazy. Let me ask, are you a liberal?

Your right, I’m the only one it made lazy. Let me ask, are you a liberal?

It’s all fixed anyway……..Drink up and smoke another pack of ciggaretts California………….That’s legal.

It’s all fixed anyway……..Drink up and smoke another pack of ciggaretts California………….That’s legal.

It’s all fixed anyway……..Drink up and smoke another pack of ciggaretts California………….That’s legal.

It’s all fixed anyway……..Drink up and smoke another pack of ciggaretts California………….That’s legal.

Please, just stop Anna

Please, just stop Anna

Please, just stop Anna

Have you even read up about the proposition? for anyone under the age of 21, it makes it illegal for them to have marijuana. i swear all people have to to do is take ten seconds to research marijuana and they would find that what they have been told over the years is erroneous. do you feel the same way about alcohol? since it is legal, do you believe that kids nowadays drink all day? if you actually did some research, you would find that alcohol is more dangerous than cannabis. another thing, passing this proposition would help california’s economy not all of america’s. we are trying to work one step at a time. in time like this you need to try new things, when the great depression came around, what did FDR do? he had created the new deal which in turn helped get the country out of the depression. and just because i know a lot about this and support this proposition, don’t be thinking that i’m some hippie/ liberal freak, im actually conservative; i just did my research–something that you need to do sometime.

Have you even read up about the proposition? for anyone under the age of 21, it makes it illegal for them to have marijuana. i swear all people have to to do is take ten seconds to research marijuana and they would find that what they have been told over the years is erroneous. do you feel the same way about alcohol? since it is legal, do you believe that kids nowadays drink all day? if you actually did some research, you would find that alcohol is more dangerous than cannabis. another thing, passing this proposition would help california’s economy not all of america’s. we are trying to work one step at a time. in time like this you need to try new things, when the great depression came around, what did FDR do? he had created the new deal which in turn helped get the country out of the depression. and just because i know a lot about this and support this proposition, don’t be thinking that i’m some hippie/ liberal freak, im actually conservative; i just did my research–something that you need to do sometime.

Have you even read up about the proposition? for anyone under the age of 21, it makes it illegal for them to have marijuana. i swear all people have to to do is take ten seconds to research marijuana and they would find that what they have been told over the years is erroneous. do you feel the same way about alcohol? since it is legal, do you believe that kids nowadays drink all day? if you actually did some research, you would find that alcohol is more dangerous than cannabis. another thing, passing this proposition would help california’s economy not all of america’s. we are trying to work one step at a time. in time like this you need to try new things, when the great depression came around, what did FDR do? he had created the new deal which in turn helped get the country out of the depression. and just because i know a lot about this and support this proposition, don’t be thinking that i’m some hippie/ liberal freak, im actually conservative; i just did my research–something that you need to do sometime.

Tksweett, we get it your conservative. The type of person that is tearing down the walls of this country because your noise is to far up your ass to see whats actually going on in the world and what people need, and what they WANT. This country was founded on the basic principles of law. Law in which represents the voice of a nation. A voice of the populous that puts laws into effect because they WANT them there. Now how does this seem right? The majority of the American people are asking for the legalization of marijuana. Yet nothing is being done, the voice is unheard. As a country that is said to be ran for and by the people. Why aren’t the people being heard? Ill tell you why, its because of people like you. To over encumbered by watching the nightly news, taking the overtly obvious scare tactics and wholeheartedly believing them. “Pot is bad for the kids” why do you say that? Whens the last time you gave them advil? aleve? tylenol? ib profen? Here is what i want you to do, i want you to go into your medicine cabinet take a tablet of tylenol and crush it up, and pour it in your hand. That “medicine” that you use on your kids is eating away at there stomach and kidneys. The anti depressants you take because of all the anxiety in fear in your life, is tearing your kidneys and liver apart and offsets the receptors in your brain, leading you to more depression and prolonged addiction to a “legal substance”. Marijuana can come in the form of a THC soluble pill without any residual long lasting negative effects. So my advice to you is mainly to open your eyes and think on your own for once. You are what i call ,Mame, a third hand holder of knowledge; one that does whatever is told of them to do, by the book. Just to let you know they are adding pages every day to that book, to keep your farther and farther away from the truth. This is marijuana we are talking about, something that has never caused a death…have fun at the bar this weekend…hopefully your kids wont follow in your path and theyll smoke some pot instead

Tksweett, we get it your conservative. The type of person that is tearing down the walls of this country because your noise is to far up your ass to see whats actually going on in the world and what people need, and what they WANT. This country was founded on the basic principles of law. Law in which represents the voice of a nation. A voice of the populous that puts laws into effect because they WANT them there. Now how does this seem right? The majority of the American people are asking for the legalization of marijuana. Yet nothing is being done, the voice is unheard. As a country that is said to be ran for and by the people. Why aren’t the people being heard? Ill tell you why, its because of people like you. To over encumbered by watching the nightly news, taking the overtly obvious scare tactics and wholeheartedly believing them. “Pot is bad for the kids” why do you say that? Whens the last time you gave them advil? aleve? tylenol? ib profen? Here is what i want you to do, i want you to go into your medicine cabinet take a tablet of tylenol and crush it up, and pour it in your hand. That “medicine” that you use on your kids is eating away at there stomach and kidneys. The anti depressants you take because of all the anxiety in fear in your life, is tearing your kidneys and liver apart and offsets the receptors in your brain, leading you to more depression and prolonged addiction to a “legal substance”. Marijuana can come in the form of a THC soluble pill without any residual long lasting negative effects. So my advice to you is mainly to open your eyes and think on your own for once. You are what i call ,Mame, a third hand holder of knowledge; one that does whatever is told of them to do, by the book. Just to let you know they are adding pages every day to that book, to keep your farther and farther away from the truth. This is marijuana we are talking about, something that has never caused a death…have fun at the bar this weekend…hopefully your kids wont follow in your path and theyll smoke some pot instead

Tksweett, we get it your conservative. The type of person that is tearing down the walls of this country because your noise is to far up your ass to see whats actually going on in the world and what people need, and what they WANT. This country was founded on the basic principles of law. Law in which represents the voice of a nation. A voice of the populous that puts laws into effect because they WANT them there. Now how does this seem right? The majority of the American people are asking for the legalization of marijuana. Yet nothing is being done, the voice is unheard. As a country that is said to be ran for and by the people. Why aren’t the people being heard? Ill tell you why, its because of people like you. To over encumbered by watching the nightly news, taking the overtly obvious scare tactics and wholeheartedly believing them. “Pot is bad for the kids” why do you say that? Whens the last time you gave them advil? aleve? tylenol? ib profen? Here is what i want you to do, i want you to go into your medicine cabinet take a tablet of tylenol and crush it up, and pour it in your hand. That “medicine” that you use on your kids is eating away at there stomach and kidneys. The anti depressants you take because of all the anxiety in fear in your life, is tearing your kidneys and liver apart and offsets the receptors in your brain, leading you to more depression and prolonged addiction to a “legal substance”. Marijuana can come in the form of a THC soluble pill without any residual long lasting negative effects. So my advice to you is mainly to open your eyes and think on your own for once. You are what i call ,Mame, a third hand holder of knowledge; one that does whatever is told of them to do, by the book. Just to let you know they are adding pages every day to that book, to keep your farther and farther away from the truth. This is marijuana we are talking about, something that has never caused a death…have fun at the bar this weekend…hopefully your kids wont follow in your path and theyll smoke some pot instead

Tksweett, we get it your conservative. The type of person that is tearing down the walls of this country because your noise is to far up your ass to see whats actually going on in the world and what people need, and what they WANT. This country was founded on the basic principles of law. Law in which represents the voice of a nation. A voice of the populous that puts laws into effect because they WANT them there. Now how does this seem right? The majority of the American people are asking for the legalization of marijuana. Yet nothing is being done, the voice is unheard. As a country that is said to be ran for and by the people. Why aren’t the people being heard? Ill tell you why, its because of people like you. To over encumbered by watching the nightly news, taking the overtly obvious scare tactics and wholeheartedly believing them. “Pot is bad for the kids” why do you say that? Whens the last time you gave them advil? aleve? tylenol? ib profen? Here is what i want you to do, i want you to go into your medicine cabinet take a tablet of tylenol and crush it up, and pour it in your hand. That “medicine” that you use on your kids is eating away at there stomach and kidneys. The anti depressants you take because of all the anxiety in fear in your life, is tearing your kidneys and liver apart and offsets the receptors in your brain, leading you to more depression and prolonged addiction to a “legal substance”. Marijuana can come in the form of a THC soluble pill without any residual long lasting negative effects. So my advice to you is mainly to open your eyes and think on your own for once. You are what i call ,Mame, a third hand holder of knowledge; one that does whatever is told of them to do, by the book. Just to let you know they are adding pages every day to that book, to keep your farther and farther away from the truth. This is marijuana we are talking about, something that has never caused a death…have fun at the bar this weekend…hopefully your kids wont follow in your path and theyll smoke some pot instead

So if pot is legal, teachers will smoke it? That’s some bad logic. Are you high? Oh, wait a minute. You don’t smoke. Maybe you should start.

“stoned teachers teachers your kids” ?

So if pot is legal, teachers will smoke it? That’s some bad logic. Are you high? Oh, wait a minute. You don’t smoke. Maybe you should start.

“stoned teachers teachers your kids” ?

So if pot is legal, teachers will smoke it? That’s some bad logic. Are you high? Oh, wait a minute. You don’t smoke. Maybe you should start.

“stoned teachers teachers your kids” ?

So if pot is legal, teachers will smoke it? That’s some bad logic. Are you high? Oh, wait a minute. You don’t smoke. Maybe you should start.

“stoned teachers teachers your kids” ?

in fact i can tksweet, its harder for me to get alcohol than marijuana now, because its regulated, if it was regulated all the dealers would go under.

in fact i can tksweet, its harder for me to get alcohol than marijuana now, because its regulated, if it was regulated all the dealers would go under.

in fact i can tksweet, its harder for me to get alcohol than marijuana now, because its regulated, if it was regulated all the dealers would go under.

in fact i can tksweet, its harder for me to get alcohol than marijuana now, because its regulated, if it was regulated all the dealers would go under.

That is a blasphemous argument to not want to leagalize weed tksweet.
That should be the last thing we worry about, we should be worrying more if it does pass WHO will get their hands on it and make it a huge corporation scam. Taxes to save Cali would be nice but Big tobacco already scares me with the rumors they have bought land in Nor Cal and are just waiting for this to pass.

That is a blasphemous argument to not want to leagalize weed tksweet.
That should be the last thing we worry about, we should be worrying more if it does pass WHO will get their hands on it and make it a huge corporation scam. Taxes to save Cali would be nice but Big tobacco already scares me with the rumors they have bought land in Nor Cal and are just waiting for this to pass.

That is a blasphemous argument to not want to leagalize weed tksweet.
That should be the last thing we worry about, we should be worrying more if it does pass WHO will get their hands on it and make it a huge corporation scam. Taxes to save Cali would be nice but Big tobacco already scares me with the rumors they have bought land in Nor Cal and are just waiting for this to pass.

That is a blasphemous argument to not want to leagalize weed tksweet.
That should be the last thing we worry about, we should be worrying more if it does pass WHO will get their hands on it and make it a huge corporation scam. Taxes to save Cali would be nice but Big tobacco already scares me with the rumors they have bought land in Nor Cal and are just waiting for this to pass.

rockstarr22 – I think it comes down to the balance between whether a substance is ‘dangerous’ (taking into account addictive qualities, and physical effects) ..and whether it can be used recreationally. Caffeine is a drug. So is alcohol. Very few people die of coffee overdose, however, and withdrawal results in a headache — so it’s legal. Cannabis is not physically addictive, it is impossible to overdose on, and has very little risk of psychological addiction. Heroin, methamphetamine, and cocaine, by contrast, are both physically addictive, and psychologically addictive, and (IMO) should remain illegal.

The bill legalizes marijuana for those who are 21! The argument that the next generation of kids will be continually high and “stupid” definitely isn’t valid. Seeing as how at age 21, an individual is not considered a child. Believe me, having just graduated high school, I know that students have easy access to obtaining marijuana illegally. So believing legalization will have marijuana “sneaking” it’s way into schools is naive.

One could relate this ignorant decision to make marijuana illegal to that of prohibition in the 1920′s.

your obviously stopping because you know we have more facts then you. all you are doing is repeating yourself. oh, and taxes are from everything, not just weed. so tell your kids this: hey 15 year old daughter, your books were paid from taxes on alcohol. thats pretty much whats going on right now, if this is what your saying

your obviously stopping because you know we have more facts then you. all you are doing is repeating yourself. oh, and taxes are from everything, not just weed. so tell your kids this: hey 15 year old daughter, your books were paid from taxes on alcohol. thats pretty much whats going on right now, if this is what your saying

Everyone. Jews are dangerous. They lead to cancer and stuff. We should ban being Jewish, you wouldn’t want a Jewish person teaching your kids would you ? Sure not all of them, are, but , you know, I don’t know what I’m talking about becaause a freedo hating idiot.Can you not see the absuridty in slavery , discrimination against religion, discrimination against, race, discrimination and the war on drugs ? If not you really really really hate freedom. If you loved freedom you would never ban an adults right to cultivate a PLANT. Are any of you so absurd to believe any of Hitler’s propoganda ? I think so, I think if we put som eof you in Germany you would be driving the trains. SWhat is wrong with you people thinking that you should use your “power” to say NO to your fellow man’s right to cultivate and smoke a flower? THEY ARE ALREADY DOING IT YOU ARE ONLY PUTTING AN END TO CRIME , LETS ALL BAN THE BIBLE BECAUSE THE VIOLENT IMAGES IN IT COULD LEAD TO PEOPLE CRUCIFYING EACH OTHER AND LIKE 1% OF CHRISTIANS ARE CRAZY , BUT THAT’S 1% TOO MANY, BAN THE BIBLE NOW !THEN we can have Bible Black Market, and get the primo good stuff, King James, for $400 a Bible. Have some gang wars over religious books. Sound good ?? You people need to think about these things. Fear is a lie. Hate ? What good are you to hate a plant that god created ? Tobacco kills more than pot which kills no one at all.I swear if Americans could vote to ban being a rae other than white thye ight do it, and we might go backwards thousands of years, some of you really really really really hate freedom ! ecause we all know black people commit dangeorus crimes the most lets just go ahead and have a war on color, that makes sense ! NOT not NOT NOT NOT what part of waging war on peaceful pot smoking Americans do you enjoy ? lets take your damn television saway because they are filled with violence and deny you the right to watch itchy and scratchy cus you might go kill cats. THAT IS THE AMERICAN TO DO , GET RID OF EVERY CONCEIVABLE LIBERTY YEAH ! no!

think about the absurd Hitlerian prpoganda then look at what is coming out of some of your motuhs, you are justifying the imprisonment of totally peaceful people that are ismply DIFFERENT THAN YOU cultivating a FLOWER IN THEIR HOMES, do you support that ? Then get out of America and go form a third world fascist dictatorship !

you cannot criminalize stupidity , you cannot enforce intelligence, people will think of ways to do retarded acts with water hoses and fireworks and , let me ask you something they sell guns at wal mart, do you want your kids teachers taking a gun to school ?

what the hell is wron gwith you people are you that dumb ? lets ban GUNS yeah ! LTES TAKE ALL OUR FREEDOMS AWAY ! Big Macs kill more people than pot does, which kills none.

in case you are very very dumb god bless you all the same, none of what I am saying I actually advocate doing , its called sarcasm and irony, to show you the dangers of htining you have the right to boss your neigbor around

IF THERE IS NOT AN INJURE DPARTY IT IS NOT A CRIME, THE ONLY INJURED PARTIES DUE TO CANNABIS ARE THOSE HARMED BY THE WAR CREATED AGAINST IT, and of course, we have the right ot inure ourselves , through fast food, sex, sleep deprviation, coffee which is actually a cancer cause at times, and things far more dangerous than pot, for christ’s sake you can buy firearms , lets at least sell some pot so people are too high to use those firearms, and decide to go sit and be calm instead.

Everyone. Jews are dangerous. They lead to cancer and stuff. We should ban being Jewish, you wouldn’t want a Jewish person teaching your kids would you ? Sure not all of them, are, but , you know, I don’t know what I’m talking about becaause a freedo hating idiot.Can you not see the absuridty in slavery , discrimination against religion, discrimination against, race, discrimination and the war on drugs ? If not you really really really hate freedom. If you loved freedom you would never ban an adults right to cultivate a PLANT. Are any of you so absurd to believe any of Hitler’s propoganda ? I think so, I think if we put som eof you in Germany you would be driving the trains. SWhat is wrong with you people thinking that you should use your “power” to say NO to your fellow man’s right to cultivate and smoke a flower? THEY ARE ALREADY DOING IT YOU ARE ONLY PUTTING AN END TO CRIME , LETS ALL BAN THE BIBLE BECAUSE THE VIOLENT IMAGES IN IT COULD LEAD TO PEOPLE CRUCIFYING EACH OTHER AND LIKE 1% OF CHRISTIANS ARE CRAZY , BUT THAT’S 1% TOO MANY, BAN THE BIBLE NOW !THEN we can have Bible Black Market, and get the primo good stuff, King James, for $400 a Bible. Have some gang wars over religious books. Sound good ?? You people need to think about these things. Fear is a lie. Hate ? What good are you to hate a plant that god created ? Tobacco kills more than pot which kills no one at all.I swear if Americans could vote to ban being a rae other than white thye ight do it, and we might go backwards thousands of years, some of you really really really really hate freedom ! ecause we all know black people commit dangeorus crimes the most lets just go ahead and have a war on color, that makes sense ! NOT not NOT NOT NOT what part of waging war on peaceful pot smoking Americans do you enjoy ? lets take your damn television saway because they are filled with violence and deny you the right to watch itchy and scratchy cus you might go kill cats. THAT IS THE AMERICAN TO DO , GET RID OF EVERY CONCEIVABLE LIBERTY YEAH ! no!

think about the absurd Hitlerian prpoganda then look at what is coming out of some of your motuhs, you are justifying the imprisonment of totally peaceful people that are ismply DIFFERENT THAN YOU cultivating a FLOWER IN THEIR HOMES, do you support that ? Then get out of America and go form a third world fascist dictatorship !

you cannot criminalize stupidity , you cannot enforce intelligence, people will think of ways to do retarded acts with water hoses and fireworks and , let me ask you something they sell guns at wal mart, do you want your kids teachers taking a gun to school ?

what the hell is wron gwith you people are you that dumb ? lets ban GUNS yeah ! LTES TAKE ALL OUR FREEDOMS AWAY ! Big Macs kill more people than pot does, which kills none.

in case you are very very dumb god bless you all the same, none of what I am saying I actually advocate doing , its called sarcasm and irony, to show you the dangers of htining you have the right to boss your neigbor around

IF THERE IS NOT AN INJURE DPARTY IT IS NOT A CRIME, THE ONLY INJURED PARTIES DUE TO CANNABIS ARE THOSE HARMED BY THE WAR CREATED AGAINST IT, and of course, we have the right ot inure ourselves , through fast food, sex, sleep deprviation, coffee which is actually a cancer cause at times, and things far more dangerous than pot, for christ’s sake you can buy firearms , lets at least sell some pot so people are too high to use those firearms, and decide to go sit and be calm instead.

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Yeah, voters sure are smart. Just as they were smart when they made gay marriage illegal, thereby taking away rights from a minority. Just like they were smart when they not only voted for Bush once but then decided to give him a second go of it. Because you know nothing is better than failure than more failure. Man nothing is more intelligent than Prohibition. It worked so well in the past, am I right? Lets keep Prohibition alive, people. What else is good but “bad for us”? Shall we prohibit candy, sugar sodas, energy drinks, high sodium foods, gas powered engines, cigars, cigarettes, alcohol (heaven forbid you lose that, you ignorant fucks), and how about we prohibit education too? Because I mean that stuff sure gets hard and it makes your head hurt. I completely and totally understand and I’m sure all the “smart” people of the world will agree.

Yeah, voters sure are smart. Just as they were smart when they made gay marriage illegal, thereby taking away rights from a minority. Just like they were smart when they not only voted for Bush once but then decided to give him a second go of it. Because you know nothing is better than failure than more failure. Man nothing is more intelligent than Prohibition. It worked so well in the past, am I right? Lets keep Prohibition alive, people. What else is good but “bad for us”? Shall we prohibit candy, sugar sodas, energy drinks, high sodium foods, gas powered engines, cigars, cigarettes, alcohol (heaven forbid you lose that, you ignorant fucks), and how about we prohibit education too? Because I mean that stuff sure gets hard and it makes your head hurt. I completely and totally understand and I’m sure all the “smart” people of the world will agree.

it’s easier because most of the population is over the age of 21. minors know more people over the age of 21 than they know a drug dealer. and yes, i know you’re going to say minors will know someone who knows a drug dealer…but that’s at least 2 degrees of separation, whereas uncles, aunts, parents, siblings, cousins would just be 1 degree.

it’s easier because most of the population is over the age of 21. minors know more people over the age of 21 than they know a drug dealer. and yes, i know you’re going to say minors will know someone who knows a drug dealer…but that’s at least 2 degrees of separation, whereas uncles, aunts, parents, siblings, cousins would just be 1 degree.

Smells like fresh trolling in here…

Smells like fresh trolling in here…

Guess what tksweett? Your kids are high. Why don’t you light up and relax? A great man once said, “Legalize it, don’t criticize it”.

Guess what tksweett? Your kids are high. Why don’t you light up and relax? A great man once said, “Legalize it, don’t criticize it”.

I think stoned teachers might be an improvement, cause then the teachers would be more relaxed and fun loving, thus fostering a more productive learning enviorment.Legalize it

I think stoned teachers might be an improvement, cause then the teachers would be more relaxed and fun loving, thus fostering a more productive learning enviorment.Legalize it

……..that’s fine, keep all the $$ that could be made in taxing it going to the criminals(thank you- I am one of them!) and organized crime orgs…….and to the illegals in the country growing this on our own lands and …………….. and mean while you can go celibrate your win with a cocktail and drive home and take your sleep meds, etc……….
……..and ‘stoned teachers.’ That’s a good one, haha! Yeah, just like the drunk ones on Prozac too and all that sh*t…….. When are you dumb asses going to wake up? Why dont you show as much concern for the meth and crank and crack….oh, your kids cant afford that yet? And MJ is the gateway drug, huh…….open the door or inhabitions………?

Well, I truly thank you CA! This would have set precident that may have been example for other states as well……at least to see how it went; all states were/are watching this. So again, I thank you! I guess I can keep putting the $300 an ounce I get straight in my pocket—-and I do spend it local………..my garden thanks you as well!

OH! And tkseett: Your teacher obviously was on more than MJ or you just weren’t there—–’cause your still not!

……..that’s fine, keep all the $$ that could be made in taxing it going to the criminals(thank you- I am one of them!) and organized crime orgs…….and to the illegals in the country growing this on our own lands and …………….. and mean while you can go celibrate your win with a cocktail and drive home and take your sleep meds, etc……….
……..and ‘stoned teachers.’ That’s a good one, haha! Yeah, just like the drunk ones on Prozac too and all that sh*t…….. When are you dumb asses going to wake up? Why dont you show as much concern for the meth and crank and crack….oh, your kids cant afford that yet? And MJ is the gateway drug, huh…….open the door or inhabitions………?

Well, I truly thank you CA! This would have set precident that may have been example for other states as well……at least to see how it went; all states were/are watching this. So again, I thank you! I guess I can keep putting the $300 an ounce I get straight in my pocket—-and I do spend it local………..my garden thanks you as well!

OH! And tkseett: Your teacher obviously was on more than MJ or you just weren’t there—–’cause your still not!

Arnold Schwarzenegger signed a law on Sept. 30 that rendered possession of a small quantity of weed a non-criminal infraction similar to a parking ticket. No criminal report will be filed, no record made. This may be why people voted against Prop 19. In any event, it appears that weed is entrenched in California culture, and the failure of Prop 19 merely means that profits will stay in the hands of loser growers who cannot find a real job instead of the government who could tax it and create a self-bailout in California. In another decade or so, another similar proposition will pass.

Arnold Schwarzenegger signed a law on Sept. 30 that rendered possession of a small quantity of weed a non-criminal infraction similar to a parking ticket. No criminal report will be filed, no record made. This may be why people voted against Prop 19. In any event, it appears that weed is entrenched in California culture, and the failure of Prop 19 merely means that profits will stay in the hands of loser growers who cannot find a real job instead of the government who could tax it and create a self-bailout in California. In another decade or so, another similar proposition will pass.

tksweett got fucked up. Haha

tksweett got fucked up. Haha

More people smoke and drive than you expect tksweet. I know for a fact at least 1/3rd of the drivers on the road around me are high haha. Seriously, there is barely every , i dont even think there is a record of, marijuana being the sole purpose of a car accident. In fact i drive high, and so does everyone i know everyday. ITS NOT THAT SEDUCTIVE OF A SUBSTANCE GET IT THROUGH YOUR IGNORANT MIND>

More people smoke and drive than you expect tksweet. I know for a fact at least 1/3rd of the drivers on the road around me are high haha. Seriously, there is barely every , i dont even think there is a record of, marijuana being the sole purpose of a car accident. In fact i drive high, and so does everyone i know everyday. ITS NOT THAT SEDUCTIVE OF A SUBSTANCE GET IT THROUGH YOUR IGNORANT MIND>

I want the green 2 be seen also, but how many of you are actually voting? Prop 19 is not doing so well and maybe when your not so high, you will have the gumption 2 go to the polls next time when your ready and vote! Whats it gonna take for the people of CALI 2 take sum real action? i hope its not the greed of the gov or the desperate need for money to get out of our debt? Why can’t we just enjoy whats naturally here?

I want the green 2 be seen also, but how many of you are actually voting? Prop 19 is not doing so well and maybe when your not so high, you will have the gumption 2 go to the polls next time when your ready and vote! Whats it gonna take for the people of CALI 2 take sum real action? i hope its not the greed of the gov or the desperate need for money to get out of our debt? Why can’t we just enjoy whats naturally here?

I want the green 2 be seen also, but how many of you are actually voting? Prop 19 is not doing so well and maybe when your not so high, you will have the gumption 2 go to the polls next time when your ready and vote! Whats it gonna take for the people of CALI 2 take sum real action? i hope its not the greed of the gov or the desperate need for money to get out of our debt? Why can’t we just enjoy whats naturally here?

I want the green 2 be seen also, but how many of you are actually voting? Prop 19 is not doing so well and maybe when your not so high, you will have the gumption 2 go to the polls next time when your ready and vote! Whats it gonna take for the people of CALI 2 take sum real action? i hope its not the greed of the gov or the desperate need for money to get out of our debt? Why can’t we just enjoy whats naturally here?

First of all, I’m high right now. You’re complaining about stoned teachers teaching your kids and you can’t even use decent grammar sober. Do you want stoned teachers teacher your kids?? What does that mean? Also, starting a sentence with the word and is pretty poor and using the symbol “&” is even worst… not trying to be a grammar nazi but you cant blame pot for ridiculous things like these..

First of all, I’m high right now. You’re complaining about stoned teachers teaching your kids and you can’t even use decent grammar sober. Do you want stoned teachers teacher your kids?? What does that mean? Also, starting a sentence with the word and is pretty poor and using the symbol “&” is even worst… not trying to be a grammar nazi but you cant blame pot for ridiculous things like these..

jesus…you act like everyone just gonna run out and get stoned the first minute its legal…that will not be the case…I would rather know that my teacher was stoned than have her hide it like he/she is a criminal…If their getting high, their doing so regardless of law…you’re just one of those people who’s gonna lose it when you find out people you trust in life smoke pot and you would have never guessed(ex. doctors, bosses, family, etc).

jesus…you act like everyone just gonna run out and get stoned the first minute its legal…that will not be the case…I would rather know that my teacher was stoned than have her hide it like he/she is a criminal…If their getting high, their doing so regardless of law…you’re just one of those people who’s gonna lose it when you find out people you trust in life smoke pot and you would have never guessed(ex. doctors, bosses, family, etc).

Not all pot smokers “eat cheetos and watch tv”. I have found people who — prior to having smoked marijuana — have tendencies toward laziness or poor diet tend to have these problems amplified by heavy marijuana use, but people who are initially of a self-efficacious and educated personality keep these traits even after heavy use of marijauna. I cannot deny that the overuse of marijuana may lead to personal problems, however, I would argue that their are many successful, composed marijuana users in society; they are just far more discrete and most likely more responsible in concern with its usage.

Not all pot smokers “eat cheetos and watch tv”. I have found people who — prior to having smoked marijuana — have tendencies toward laziness or poor diet tend to have these problems amplified by heavy marijuana use, but people who are initially of a self-efficacious and educated personality keep these traits even after heavy use of marijauna. I cannot deny that the overuse of marijuana may lead to personal problems, however, I would argue that their are many successful, composed marijuana users in society; they are just far more discrete and most likely more responsible in concern with its usage.

really? where? prove it! It is sooo easy to just say is a “lil fun” this and that? have a sense of responsability and actual logic, I was jury duty for a trial where “2 calmly stoned” teenagers (whom by the way have been that way for quite a while) brutally killed an old couple for guess what? money! guess what for? DRUGS (as in MJ) the prohibition does make it harder to b dealt w in some places…how about the parents that don’t take care of their kids cuz they were “calmly stonned”?

and between alcohol and weed there’s a HUUUUUUUUUge difference how many drinks do u need to get high…n then what happens later the horrible hang over…which deterrs some of us from that…how about weed? how many “roaches” do u need to “feel good” n what happens later a really bad case of “the munchies” so be realistic, is more dangerous cuz it’s easier to abuse and get hooked on, and don’t tell me that is not addictive or else we wouldn’t be discussing it… How about howmany idiots would wanna farm their own weed, u think that the cartels r gonna what sit on it and enjoy…and don’t mention the wave of illegal immigrants swamping the land where u can even plant and sell ur own weed…hey while we r at…why not legalizing prostitution?

really? where? prove it! It is sooo easy to just say is a “lil fun” this and that? have a sense of responsability and actual logic, I was jury duty for a trial where “2 calmly stoned” teenagers (whom by the way have been that way for quite a while) brutally killed an old couple for guess what? money! guess what for? DRUGS (as in MJ) the prohibition does make it harder to b dealt w in some places…how about the parents that don’t take care of their kids cuz they were “calmly stonned”?

and between alcohol and weed there’s a HUUUUUUUUUge difference how many drinks do u need to get high…n then what happens later the horrible hang over…which deterrs some of us from that…how about weed? how many “roaches” do u need to “feel good” n what happens later a really bad case of “the munchies” so be realistic, is more dangerous cuz it’s easier to abuse and get hooked on, and don’t tell me that is not addictive or else we wouldn’t be discussing it… How about howmany idiots would wanna farm their own weed, u think that the cartels r gonna what sit on it and enjoy…and don’t mention the wave of illegal immigrants swamping the land where u can even plant and sell ur own weed…hey while we r at…why not legalizing prostitution?

Thats why it didn’t pass & you’re all ignorant because half of you are saying the teachers have to follow the same alcohol laws & the other half of you are the teachers are stoned already. So all of you, go smoke a joint on the down low & make up your minds

Tee

Thats why it didn’t pass & you’re all ignorant because half of you are saying the teachers have to follow the same alcohol laws & the other half of you are the teachers are stoned already. So all of you, go smoke a joint on the down low & make up your minds

Tee

The scare tactics on prop.19 are no more valid than they were for prop. 8. The right wing has no substantial argument, just pushing fear.

The scare tactics on prop.19 are no more valid than they were for prop. 8. The right wing has no substantial argument, just pushing fear.

in the words of peter tosh, legaliiiiize itttt

in the words of peter tosh, legaliiiiize itttt

News flash, people who smoke weed are going to continue to smoke whether it is legal or not. I think that past decades have proven that. So if you are so concerned about your daughter smoking or others around her, why don’t you volunteer some time to D.A.R.E. advocacy or simply communicate with your daughter. Don’t turn your personal fears and concerns into public ones. And it won’t make things easier. If marijuana is legalized, it will have increased restrictions, police will be able to enforce suspected use by minors, and the cost will increase significantly due to taxes. I am also a little concerned about the teachers in your neck of the woods, since you reported in your first post that they could come to school drunk and now here that they can be high on campus. I teach at the college level and have not witness that (I am a graduate student).

Another hint: don’t post when you’re angry or in the heat of the moment. Your post is littered with typos and other inaccuracies.

News flash, people who smoke weed are going to continue to smoke whether it is legal or not. I think that past decades have proven that. So if you are so concerned about your daughter smoking or others around her, why don’t you volunteer some time to D.A.R.E. advocacy or simply communicate with your daughter. Don’t turn your personal fears and concerns into public ones. And it won’t make things easier. If marijuana is legalized, it will have increased restrictions, police will be able to enforce suspected use by minors, and the cost will increase significantly due to taxes. I am also a little concerned about the teachers in your neck of the woods, since you reported in your first post that they could come to school drunk and now here that they can be high on campus. I teach at the college level and have not witness that (I am a graduate student).

Another hint: don’t post when you’re angry or in the heat of the moment. Your post is littered with typos and other inaccuracies.

Those same tired and weak scare tactic arguments were used to create Alcohol prohibiton. That prohibition ended over 80 years ago…are we a nation of drunks? How about giving people credit for being responsible. It’s that nanny state shit you promote that keeps us all living in darkness…

Those same tired and weak scare tactic arguments were used to create Alcohol prohibiton. That prohibition ended over 80 years ago…are we a nation of drunks? How about giving people credit for being responsible. It’s that nanny state shit you promote that keeps us all living in darkness…

AlecK – I’m aware that alcohol is very impairing (unlike cannabis, which has been shown in a single unofficial study not to have an effect on reflexes), but there is a culture that supports alcohol, and sometimes culture overrides science. My research on cannabis is current, although if you have a legitimate site to disprove anything I just said, I’d be happy to take a look. Sorry, Parents Against Weed doesn’t count as a ‘legitimate’ research site.

AlecK – I’m aware that alcohol is very impairing (unlike cannabis, which has been shown in a single unofficial study not to have an effect on reflexes), but there is a culture that supports alcohol, and sometimes culture overrides science. My research on cannabis is current, although if you have a legitimate site to disprove anything I just said, I’d be happy to take a look. Sorry, Parents Against Weed doesn’t count as a ‘legitimate’ research site.

Let’s hope it comes back in 2012???
if it fails just protest ? like the fags in gay marrage right?
prop 19 goes against federal laws?
here is a suggestion if you guys want it to go thru then why not vote california become its own country ? since it obviusly dont care about america and wants to do its own thing

really come on anna marie how about you go smoke your bong some more before posting stupid crap you dont know about?
for one if you legalize marijuana how many people will loose there jobs?
anything federal construction workers, post office workers prison guards and many more
but oh wait you wanna get high so to hell with those people and there familys right?
right now drunk driving is a big problem now were gonna add a whole bunch of stoned drivers
Anna Marie you really want you mom brothers sisters etc… killed by someone that was stoned while driving? it is bad enough with people that are on drugs while driving but hey lets hope prop 19 passes so the problems increase 10 fold

The war on drugs and the German holocuast are the same exact principle, the only difference is we are not killing peaceful kind people that mind their own business and think and act differently than the norm.

The war on drugs and the German holocuast are the same exact principle, the only difference is we are not killing peaceful kind people that mind their own business and think and act differently than the norm.

really? where? prove it! It is sooo easy to just say is a “lil fun” this and that? have a sense of responsability and actual logic, I was jury duty for a trial where “2 calmly stoned” teenagers (whom by the way have been that way for quite a while) brutally killed an old couple for guess what? money! guess what for? DRUGS (as in MJ) the prohibition does make it harder to b dealt w in some places…how about the parents that don’t take care of their kids cuz they were “calmly stonned”?

and between alcohol and weed there’s a HUUUUUUUUUge difference how many drinks do u need to get high…n then what happens later the horrible hang over…which deterrs some of us from that…how about weed? how many “roaches” do u need to “feel good” n what happens later a really bad case of “the munchies” so be realistic, is more dangerous cuz it’s easier to abuse and get hooked on, and don’t tell me that is not addictive or else we wouldn’t be discussing it… How about howmany idiots would wanna farm their own weed, u think that the cartels r gonna what sit on it and enjoy…and don’t mention the wave of illegal immigrants swamping the land where u can even plant and sell ur own weed…hey while we r at…why not legalizing prostitution?

Imagine the protection clans rising to make sure that u don’t get discurage by tugs tryin to either vandalize or steal ur weed crops… should we tax those too…is more money? and why not legalize illegal aliens…on a serious note we can tax more out of them than weed…w less repercussions…

The war on drugs, the unholy spanish inquisition, slavery, these are all the same thing : they suppose one group of people who are ignorant about everything they are enforcing are better than another, and deserv eto , in total absence of ay injured parties, discriminate against them through forms of force, violence, lying, and propoganda

there is not freedom of religion in this united states, ask any ganja smoker who likes to get high and tlak to god, or anyone who eats magic mushrooms and realizes that unconditoinal love for all lie is the only thing that matters

YES i would like those people teaching our children, not a woman who sits around slack jawed making fun of things she doesn’t understand in the name of Jesus, voting NO against freedom ,

NO AGAINST FREEDOM IN THE NAME OF FREDOM,

what is wron gwith you ? be ashamed of yourselves, nothing is mor eprecious than liberty and we are talking about the righ tto cultivate a flower, putting an automatic end to a black market of greed and hatred which ought not exist.

imagine banning the bible on acount that 1 in 100,000 use it to commit hate crimes ?

using the term fag to degrade someone is being no better than the person you are labeling.

i am pro 19, but many balked at felony for smoke in front of minors..if this clause wasnt in, maybe it woulda passed

i am pro 19, but many balked at felony for smoke in front of minors..if this clause wasnt in, maybe it woulda passed

everybody is already stoned, but the state is broke

everybody is already stoned, but the state is broke

i like your style

i like your style

Maybe you guys should just fly the Mexican flag. You don’t know how much the rest of the country was counting on you. You have let us down. Too many people making money off keeping illegal. Just so you know you have given the no vote, Mexico, drug dealers and growers all the power they could want. Growers beware, your next.

Maybe you guys should just fly the Mexican flag. You don’t know how much the rest of the country was counting on you. You have let us down. Too many people making money off keeping illegal. Just so you know you have given the no vote, Mexico, drug dealers and growers all the power they could want. Growers beware, your next.

Imagine banning the Bible on account of 1 in 100000 ( a made up statistic as always ) commit hate crimes in the name of JEEEEZEUS ,
now imagine the crim that comes from the peopl ewho refuse to stop being Christian, that were once peaceful,

now imagine the exploitaton of printing presses and this and that

what is wron gwith you ? none of you no vetsrs are true amerians, i am sorry to say , infringing upon LIFE LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS, WHAT PART ABOUT LIFE LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS, means,

that if you like pot instead of beer go to hell, die , go to prison, pay fines, we don’t give a dman if you only smoke in your house fuck you and die !

that is hate filled nonsense and yet you are supporting the harm of million sof innocent people by supporting a drug war, the drug war and the nazi hlocuast are the SAME, the only difference is inetnsity of enforement of insane policies

Imagine banning the Bible on account of 1 in 100000 ( a made up statistic as always ) commit hate crimes in the name of JEEEEZEUS ,
now imagine the crim that comes from the peopl ewho refuse to stop being Christian, that were once peaceful,

now imagine the exploitaton of printing presses and this and that

what is wron gwith you ? none of you no vetsrs are true amerians, i am sorry to say , infringing upon LIFE LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS, WHAT PART ABOUT LIFE LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS, means,

that if you like pot instead of beer go to hell, die , go to prison, pay fines, we don’t give a dman if you only smoke in your house fuck you and die !

that is hate filled nonsense and yet you are supporting the harm of million sof innocent people by supporting a drug war, the drug war and the nazi hlocuast are the SAME, the only difference is inetnsity of enforement of insane policies

all i know is i have proved you wrong on everysingle thing you said. so congrats tkfaggot, you still are outnumbered, and you still were proven wrong. by everysingle one of these people here. i fried you, anna fried you, anita fried you, and so did everyone else. like i said getcha facts straight.

all i know is i have proved you wrong on everysingle thing you said. so congrats tkfaggot, you still are outnumbered, and you still were proven wrong. by everysingle one of these people here. i fried you, anna fried you, anita fried you, and so did everyone else. like i said getcha facts straight.

Good for you Daddy_Mango (:

Tee

Good for you Daddy_Mango (:

Tee

stoned teachers were my best teachers, at least they kept students interested, while the old fuddy duddy teacjhing to the test made kids cut classs and they ended up smoking meth rather than listen to the monotony of the old vanguard ramble on

stoned teachers were my best teachers, at least they kept students interested, while the old fuddy duddy teacjhing to the test made kids cut classs and they ended up smoking meth rather than listen to the monotony of the old vanguard ramble on

getting caught with weed in california is basically a slap on the wrist right now. getting caught with under an ounce of marijuana (which is more than enough) is a $100 fine-basically a traffic ticket which doesn’t even go on your record. so why not make it legal, where you can control the amount given and get money from each purchase rather than getting some money out of that small fine if someone gets caught.

getting caught with weed in california is basically a slap on the wrist right now. getting caught with under an ounce of marijuana (which is more than enough) is a $100 fine-basically a traffic ticket which doesn’t even go on your record. so why not make it legal, where you can control the amount given and get money from each purchase rather than getting some money out of that small fine if someone gets caught.

The kicker is that this is gonna b like that episode on the Simpsons the tweekers are so high on their thoughts n product that are not gonna realize until tomorrow that they lost their chance….ha ha ha sit on your weed and rotate while I try to teach my kids actual values, and moral…on how to not be so shallow that they need of weed or alcohol to be happy they gotta find their own inner happiness and peace!

The kicker is that this is gonna b like that episode on the Simpsons the tweekers are so high on their thoughts n product that are not gonna realize until tomorrow that they lost their chance….ha ha ha sit on your weed and rotate while I try to teach my kids actual values, and moral…on how to not be so shallow that they need of weed or alcohol to be happy they gotta find their own inner happiness and peace!

Actually, no, I’m not. I’m actually considered disturbingly conservative by my liberal friends, but since I live in a liberal area, it’s all relative. Let me ask, are you a conservative? I assume there was a point in your asking?

Let me ask, are you a conservative?

Also, does it make everyone, EVERYONE, 100% EVERYONE, lazy?

Finally, bring facts from a peer-reviewed source, or shut up with you unprovable arguments that might as well be lies, even if they aren’t.

Let me ask, are you a conservative?

Also, does it make everyone, EVERYONE, 100% EVERYONE, lazy?

Finally, bring facts from a peer-reviewed source, or shut up with you unprovable arguments that might as well be lies, even if they aren’t.

Liberty has everything to do with it. Educate yourself man! Liberty is the basic fundamental freedom we are supposed to have! Liberty identifies the condition to which an individual has the right to act accordingly to ones own personal responsibility and FREE WILL. It has everything to do with liberty. God no wonder America is on the path that it is. People dont even know their rights anymore!

You may have fried me, but you still lost the vote ;D

Tee

Most of the ‘crime’ happening is people getting busted for weed. It’s sad, it really is.

I don’t know what is so wrong in your lives that you all feel the need to walk around high all day, but our society is already going into the shitter because of people that have nothing better to do than smoke marijuana all the time. Legalizing dope would only further the collapse of our society, and as for the so called medical marijuana thing, that is the biggest load of crap I have heard, 90% of the people with the medical cards have no debilitating ailments at all, and they all go to these clubs with their friends to smoke it and it isn’t even distributed through a pharmacy like any true medication would be. It is my firm belief that we must outlaw marijuana completely and actually make all these offenders serve their long sentences instead of letting them out so that maybe our society could actually heal from the damage marijuana has done to it.

I don’t know what is so wrong in your lives that you all feel the need to walk around high all day, but our society is already going into the shitter because of people that have nothing better to do than smoke marijuana all the time. Legalizing dope would only further the collapse of our society, and as for the so called medical marijuana thing, that is the biggest load of crap I have heard, 90% of the people with the medical cards have no debilitating ailments at all, and they all go to these clubs with their friends to smoke it and it isn’t even distributed through a pharmacy like any true medication would be. It is my firm belief that we must outlaw marijuana completely and actually make all these offenders serve their long sentences instead of letting them out so that maybe our society could actually heal from the damage marijuana has done to it.

I don’t know what is so wrong in your lives that you all feel the need to walk around high all day, but our society is already going into the shitter because of people that have nothing better to do than smoke marijuana all the time. Legalizing dope would only further the collapse of our society, and as for the so called medical marijuana thing, that is the biggest load of crap I have heard, 90% of the people with the medical cards have no debilitating ailments at all, and they all go to these clubs with their friends to smoke it and it isn’t even distributed through a pharmacy like any true medication would be. It is my firm belief that we must outlaw marijuana completely and actually make all these offenders serve their long sentences instead of letting them out so that maybe our society could actually heal from the damage marijuana has done to it.

So, everyone that smokes has a chemical imbalance! Where’d you get your Ph.D?

it is liberty peace, respet, compassionate loose regulation of a peaceful activity that most of america is doing ever single day , OR AL CAPONE LIKE LIVING HELL CONDITIONS BECAUSE OF CREATING A THRIVING BLACK MARKET BY CRIMINALIZING A PERFECTLY NORMAL ACTIVITY AND CREATING AN ENDLESS REVENUE STREAM

what do you prefer, sensibility or evil ?
what right have you to say that you an’t be gay, or can’t smoke pot, or can’t be a jew, or can’t be a muslim, or can’t be this and that ? none of this is american, i am appalled at the moronitaciousness of some californians !

banning , and say, killing a religious group, is the same as banning a group of peopl efrom using a plant, they do it anyway, what part of someone growing a plant and smoking it or eating it in brownies or this and that is any threat to you , the black market creates the ability for your children to get a nice job selling “dope” at school, because of the BLACK MARKET

imagine banning sex an dsee how dangerous normal consenting adults become in their normal day to day self expressino of a natural and normal act.

THERE ARE NO LAWS AGAINST DRIVING WHILE PISSED OFF AND ANGRY

THERE ARE NO PISSED OF ANGRYLIZATION TESTS TO GIVE TO DRIVERS , THERE ARE NO LAWS TO BAN DRIVING WHILE SLEEPY ,

SOMEONE BEING INTOXICATED ON THE ROAD IS A DIFFERENT MANER THAN THEIR OWN HOME, YOU WOULDN’T GO TO THE AIRPORT SOO DRUNK THAT YOU ARE SPEWING VOMIT EVERYWHERE, YET ALCOHOL IS LEGAL,

USE COMMON SENSE, LAW ENFORCEMENT IS FOR PROTECTION AND INTERVENTION IN CASES OF ACTUAL VIOLENCE OR PUBLIC DISTUBRANCE

that is like taking a bible an dthrowing it at someone and givin gthem a concussion, so lets ban bibles so that doesn’t happen what about the people that are good and don’t hit you in the face with books ?

this line of thinking, this banishment of freedom based upon mass fear hypnosis is the most unamerican thing in the world, shaem on any of you , how would you like us to ban your starbucks and put you in ail if you are brewing some espresso for your family to sit and enjoy ?

No that Im defending Nic Nelson, but criticizingsomeone elses spelling, grammer, or sentance structure doesn’t make your arguement any more valid then yours (your high!).

And to you Nic Nelson…
Arguing that marihuana users break, both state and federal, laws now and will probably not follow them in the future is irrelivant. There are MORE then plenty of state and federal laws that everyone, including you, breaks. It can range from something as simple as buying pirated movies or music, speeding, under aged drinking, or smoking marihuana. These laws are being broken as we speak. You have to look at the bigger picture. With legalization you create BILLIONS of dollars in revenue off another wonderful Sin Tax, a decrease in the cost of criminals being incarcerated for marihuana offences and a decrease in the amount of money spent on drug units to combat the illegal distribution of marihuana.

would you say that smoking dope is a natural and normal act?

would you say that smoking dope is a natural and normal act?

Alcohol is legal, but we don’t go to work under the influence. Do you seriously think that if prop. 19 passed there would be no laws involved. I have 3 children myself and I’m not worried about a teacher who may smoke a little weed at night to help her settle down teaching them.

too much caffeine can kill you , and even a little bit can make you a jerk, and an irate motorist,

so , lets put you and your husbands and wives in jail, that makes sense,

no it doesn’t, how would you like it no voters if someone put a gun to your face for enjoying an espresso in your house and sitting around getting HIGH ON CAFFEINE , because you ARE TAKING A DRUG

know how many kids die from caffeine pills, a lot ,

how many young kids, even 9 year olds, die from pot ? none , think about it ,

NO INJURED PARTY ? THEN ITS NOT A CRIME.

too much caffeine can kill you , and even a little bit can make you a jerk, and an irate motorist,

so , lets put you and your husbands and wives in jail, that makes sense,

no it doesn’t, how would you like it no voters if someone put a gun to your face for enjoying an espresso in your house and sitting around getting HIGH ON CAFFEINE , because you ARE TAKING A DRUG

know how many kids die from caffeine pills, a lot ,

how many young kids, even 9 year olds, die from pot ? none , think about it ,

NO INJURED PARTY ? THEN ITS NOT A CRIME.

Most of my family, as well as their friends, are southern California Republicans and they all voted to legalize marijuana. How did this not pass?

Most of my family, as well as their friends, are southern California Republicans and they all voted to legalize marijuana. How did this not pass?

Some of us around the country are a lil disappointed that Cali couldn’t or didn’t rock the vote for legalization of MJ. This is a billion dollar industry and never mind Oakland just bought licenses for 4 MJ factories to do what? supply the dispensaries??? You guys need to get it right. Whatever Cali does so does the rest of the country. Do we need this barbaric law for criminalizing use? This federal / state law invades my constitutional right to pursue my happiness and well -being, whatever it is! As long as i don’t hurt others why should anyone care what I do with my private time.

Some of us around the country are a lil disappointed that Cali couldn’t or didn’t rock the vote for legalization of MJ. This is a billion dollar industry and never mind Oakland just bought licenses for 4 MJ factories to do what? supply the dispensaries??? You guys need to get it right. Whatever Cali does so does the rest of the country. Do we need this barbaric law for criminalizing use? This federal / state law invades my constitutional right to pursue my happiness and well -being, whatever it is! As long as i don’t hurt others why should anyone care what I do with my private time.

…it’s really easy to drive high. Trust me

…it’s really easy to drive high. Trust me

im pretty sure aleck is on your side anna, I think he was talking to that other guy.

im pretty sure aleck is on your side anna, I think he was talking to that other guy.

no injured part = no crime ,

or i guess if someone watches south park they could be studying how to bully kids, because sometimes if you get bulleied you kill yourself, or kill your classmates, so if your kids are caught watching south park we’d best put them in detention centers so they don’t go around saying “suck my balls ” ?

no injured part = no crime ,

or i guess if someone watches south park they could be studying how to bully kids, because sometimes if you get bulleied you kill yourself, or kill your classmates, so if your kids are caught watching south park we’d best put them in detention centers so they don’t go around saying “suck my balls ” ?

Just because Some kids were stoned, doesn’t mean marijuana played a role in the murder. Marijuana does not correlate with violence. Violent people may use marijuana, however its a bold statement to claim marijuana physically makes users who consume the drug violent.

Marijuana is NOT physically addictive either. So by simply saying marijuana is addictive just because we are discussing it, doesn’t make any logical sense.

And your other arguments about prostitution and taxing illegal immigrants are very incoherent and nonsensical.

Just because Some kids were stoned, doesn’t mean marijuana played a role in the murder. Marijuana does not correlate with violence. Violent people may use marijuana, however its a bold statement to claim marijuana physically makes users who consume the drug violent.

Marijuana is NOT physically addictive either. So by simply saying marijuana is addictive just because we are discussing it, doesn’t make any logical sense.

And your other arguments about prostitution and taxing illegal immigrants are very incoherent and nonsensical.

I don’t think it really matters witch way you guys voted
there was no chance of it being made legal (ish)when you have people that make a living out of it being illegal
The population of drug counselors in the US is probably higher than the entire population of some Australian states
And to top it off your jails are privatized
I think it was just a way to get all you guys down the polling booths and maybe you might vote while your there
And no i cant spell or punctuate

I don’t think it really matters witch way you guys voted
there was no chance of it being made legal (ish)when you have people that make a living out of it being illegal
The population of drug counselors in the US is probably higher than the entire population of some Australian states
And to top it off your jails are privatized
I think it was just a way to get all you guys down the polling booths and maybe you might vote while your there
And no i cant spell or punctuate

aiight kid, then have fun telling your kid that your kid that her school books were funded by taxes from alcohol, because obviously you think if bud was legalized it would be so much worse then alcohol. look how many people have died from car accidents from drunkasses on the road, or have died from alcohol poisoning, then look at how many have died from weed. all i know is weed has killed 0 people in history. your obviously convinced that alcohol is better then weed, even though it has more depression and physical effects. smoke weed, have a good time, then fall asleep. drink, have a possably good time, or be a complete dick, fall asleep, wake up with a hangover. yeah buddy, alcohol is way better fucking retard

aiight kid, then have fun telling your kid that your kid that her school books were funded by taxes from alcohol, because obviously you think if bud was legalized it would be so much worse then alcohol. look how many people have died from car accidents from drunkasses on the road, or have died from alcohol poisoning, then look at how many have died from weed. all i know is weed has killed 0 people in history. your obviously convinced that alcohol is better then weed, even though it has more depression and physical effects. smoke weed, have a good time, then fall asleep. drink, have a possably good time, or be a complete dick, fall asleep, wake up with a hangover. yeah buddy, alcohol is way better fucking retard

the right is given by a democratic process called elections…the majority of the populous rules…and the majority voted on that…that’s freedom…we choose to live here or not! can’t change the system by complaining, did you advocate for your cause? I’ve done for mine’s and some have won others not…I’m still living here…n I’ve choosen to continue doing this just as I did when I went to serve both wars against my ideals…but it was MY choice to follow orders from those whom we all (the majority) elected to give orders.

the right is given by a democratic process called elections…the majority of the populous rules…and the majority voted on that…that’s freedom…we choose to live here or not! can’t change the system by complaining, did you advocate for your cause? I’ve done for mine’s and some have won others not…I’m still living here…n I’ve choosen to continue doing this just as I did when I went to serve both wars against my ideals…but it was MY choice to follow orders from those whom we all (the majority) elected to give orders.

You really think we should put people in prison for smoking a plant? What about alcohol? I know two people from high school that died from too much alcohol, but no one has ever in all of recorded history dies from marijuana. Can you say that about aspirin?

You really think we should put people in prison for smoking a plant? What about alcohol? I know two people from high school that died from too much alcohol, but no one has ever in all of recorded history dies from marijuana. Can you say that about aspirin?

Technically, cocaine and methamphetamine are both Schedule II (because they have “medical uses”), making these substances “more legal” in a sense than marijuana.

Look: http://www.justice.gov/dea/pubs/scheduling.html

Technically, cocaine and methamphetamine are both Schedule II (because they have “medical uses”), making these substances “more legal” in a sense than marijuana.

Look: http://www.justice.gov/dea/pubs/scheduling.html

sometimes people do weird stuff in their sleep that causes them to die, we had better criminalize sleeping !

sometimes people do weird stuff in their sleep that causes them to die, we had better criminalize sleeping !

Are-You_kidding – I’ll toke when I feel like it, and don’t need your permission, thanks. It will create several union jobs, as people will require workers to support the industry. I am guessing you weren’t aware of what goes into the growing industry (including the materials that will need to be purchased, indirectly supporting other businesses), not to mention the accountants, distribution workers, etc. How about you go have another cigarette before posting stupid crap you don’t know about?And if you think keeping something illegal is going to keep people from driving under the influence, you’re sadly mistaken. I’m not worried about my family being killed by a stoned driver, I’m more concerned with the drunk drivers and those who text while driving. By your logic, since driving while drunk and texting while driving is illegal, people don’t do that anymore….right?

Are-You_kidding – I’ll toke when I feel like it, and don’t need your permission, thanks. It will create several union jobs, as people will require workers to support the industry. I am guessing you weren’t aware of what goes into the growing industry (including the materials that will need to be purchased, indirectly supporting other businesses), not to mention the accountants, distribution workers, etc. How about you go have another cigarette before posting stupid crap you don’t know about?And if you think keeping something illegal is going to keep people from driving under the influence, you’re sadly mistaken. I’m not worried about my family being killed by a stoned driver, I’m more concerned with the drunk drivers and those who text while driving. By your logic, since driving while drunk and texting while driving is illegal, people don’t do that anymore….right?

Yea dumbass, let’s go visit our local dealer who has ties to the mexican cartel that murders families over this stuff…you are a freaking idiot.

Yea dumbass, let’s go visit our local dealer who has ties to the mexican cartel that murders families over this stuff…you are a freaking idiot.

obviously you have never travelled tksweet. in other countries, drugs are legal, decriminalized and the like. People handle themselves just fine.

obviously you have never travelled tksweet. in other countries, drugs are legal, decriminalized and the like. People handle themselves just fine.

As emergency worker have gone every OD, but pot. You people in CA got scammed. Time to move the trend setter out of CA and someplace that knows the meaning of give me liberty or give me death. CA new Mexican State. I feel so sorry for you. You broke over greed and money and our generation was going to change the world. How sad. Don’t you no votes understand that you have just given government more power into your personal life than you ever thought possible.

As emergency worker have gone every OD, but pot. You people in CA got scammed. Time to move the trend setter out of CA and someplace that knows the meaning of give me liberty or give me death. CA new Mexican State. I feel so sorry for you. You broke over greed and money and our generation was going to change the world. How sad. Don’t you no votes understand that you have just given government more power into your personal life than you ever thought possible.

now this guy knows what im sayin

now this guy knows what im sayin

so, the only thing that determines whether something is good or bad in your opinion is whether or not it has the power to induce death?

so, the only thing that determines whether something is good or bad in your opinion is whether or not it has the power to induce death?

Lets stop calling this the ‘land of the free’. We are not. I can be locked up in prison for having the wrong type of plant.

Lets stop calling this the ‘land of the free’. We are not. I can be locked up in prison for having the wrong type of plant.

@AlecK: Whatever your opinions on Prop 19, you seriously need a fact check and/or improve your reading comprehension. Reread the results of that recent study.

Alcohol is more dangerous because it impairs a greater number of people than other drugs, since its use is so widespread (and alcoholics can hurt people around them). That is, the net cost to society is greater than that of crack, heroin, etc. because there are many more users (because it’s legal, after all). It is still without doubt that cocaine and other drugs are more harmful to the health individual users than alcohol.

Nonetheless, the researchers in that study agreed that completely outlawing a drug is not the way to deal with the problem it has on society. You have to target problem users, not responsible ones that just take a drink or two every once in a while.

@AlecK: Whatever your opinions on Prop 19, you seriously need a fact check and/or improve your reading comprehension. Reread the results of that recent study.

Alcohol is more dangerous because it impairs a greater number of people than other drugs, since its use is so widespread (and alcoholics can hurt people around them). That is, the net cost to society is greater than that of crack, heroin, etc. because there are many more users (because it’s legal, after all). It is still without doubt that cocaine and other drugs are more harmful to the health individual users than alcohol.

Nonetheless, the researchers in that study agreed that completely outlawing a drug is not the way to deal with the problem it has on society. You have to target problem users, not responsible ones that just take a drink or two every once in a while.

You sound like a genius too because you cant even spell correctly.

You sound like a genius too because you cant even spell correctly.

Hey jayrok have another drink you zipperhead. Just because something if abused can be bad for your health doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be legal. Pot does help many people with cancer, MS, Glaucoma, and many other sicknesses. I agree that many people with medical cards have no reason to have them. The real point that people seem to miss is that booze, ciggs, and many pills that dwarf pot in terms of being destructive are very legal and pot which kills no one in not legal. Personally I don’t smoke it, but I strongly believe that people should have a choice to smoke it without being fined or jailed if they do. Prop 19 is not the answer, but it’s a good first step. Sure if you smoke bud everyday you’ll likely get nothing done, but if you drink everyday you’ll likely get nothing done and might even kill some driving or in a angry rage.

Hey America wake up! Your country is going down and you all choose not to do a thing about it. It’s good to live in Canada we have our problems too, but compared to you guys we are doing pretty well. So until you all stop watching TV and texting with a Big Mac in one hand and an iphone in the other NOTHING is going to get done. That’s right just keep being regressive and fearing the invisible boogieman and see how that works out for you.

the war on drugs makes every single school in america a drug store, all kids have free and easy access to uncontrolled substances of questionable quality

so , obviously , you people voting no on this measure like your kids to have easy access to drugs.

at least half of the country gets high regularly , an you imagine if half the country killed someone every day ? we’d have no one left on this planet,

“everyones crime is no crime at all, everyones sin is no sin at all. ”

the drug war does not prevent anything, rather, causes a lot of very bad things, whil failling to prevent the thing that it is fighting against, saying no to something makes it amplify itself and become far more chaotic than it once was.

children in the netherlands get less high than american kids !

I’m from Michigan, n we would legalize it if Cali did, just as we did with the MEDICAL vote. I want it legal lol

looks like some people were too stoned to vote

Do you have kids tksweett? Do their teachers stumble in to class drunk? Mary jane isn’t hard to find…if teachers really wanted to smoke they would anyway. Legalization has absolutely no effect on our teachers or students…..totally irrelevant. How many people die each year from alcohol related deaths? 85,000 Marijuana? ZERO
Source: http://drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/30

Funny, and I was told yesterday that it was the Republicans who ‘made society go to the shitter’ ….guess who’s to blame depends entirely on who you talk to. Never thought pot-smokers had that much political clout. The things you learn on comments boards…

nope! we came up with it as a way to scape from our realities…the original use was similar to that as camomille, and excellent rub for arthritis…no high what so ever! even when u drank it, it was a good digestive aid that like any herbal tea calmed you (cuz I don’t know anyone who dranks tea while being enrraged)

Amen

Dumb asses , its my phone . Just bcus u guys spend all day on the computer & have no lives. So shut up with your stupid ass comments ,they’re a waste of my time. Good night to all . Have a good night better luck next time. Peace

Tee

actually no. the votes have not all been counted yet. so you should be careful next time you try and burn someone. Oh wait, you’ve been trying this whole time but you continue to be proven wrong. want some ice for that?

legalizing cannabis does not make more people use it, it lets people do what they are already doing peacefully in their own homes…. peacefully …. in their own homes,

THE NEW USERS will be people who WANTED TO EXERCISE THE RIGHT TO GET HIGH , but were AFRAID TO DO SO , just like you used to be afraid to be any religion other than a Christian or people would kill you , its called tyranny ……..

man i’d sure like to be an atheist but , what if the inquisition catches me !

now, these new users, they will either like it or not like it either way they are pretty straight cut people mainpulated strongly by fear, so, they will not get “high on the job ” , they are responsible enough to not do something because they don’t know how to think for themselves and only do what they are told an dcomnanded, they are the last type of people to get hihg on the job ,

the people that already use it , are both totally irresponsible and totally responsible upstanding citiziens and everything in between, the issue is not cannabis but basic human sanity , and some humans are not smart

in fact 100% of crimes are committed by humans, so i think being a human should be mad eillegal !

My point is that it is FAR less harmful than many drugs the government taxes and allows us to posses. It is hypocritical to collect money from the sale of alcohol, a substance that has killed countless people over the decades and centuries. Meanwhile they lock people up for a plant that is much less harmful than cigarettes or alcohol. Does that make any sense?

legalizing prostitution would be a very intelligent thing to do. And I can guarantee noone killed anyone for some weed, you are either flat out lying, or you were lied to, and IF they DID, they are the exception by a long shot. We could argue the ups and downs of marijuana all day and night, but its ups and downs ARE NOT the point. The POINT is, prohibition does NOT work. It makes things worse. PERIOD. I would bet everything I own that their are way way way way more alcoholic neglectful parents than neglectful parents that smoke herb. ugh, ignorance disgusts me.

legalizing prostitution would be a very intelligent thing to do. And I can guarantee noone killed anyone for some weed, you are either flat out lying, or you were lied to, and IF they DID, they are the exception by a long shot. We could argue the ups and downs of marijuana all day and night, but its ups and downs ARE NOT the point. The POINT is, prohibition does NOT work. It makes things worse. PERIOD. I would bet everything I own that their are way way way way more alcoholic neglectful parents than neglectful parents that smoke herb. ugh, ignorance disgusts me.

Just like since alcohol is legal, everyone is drunk on the job.

Just like since alcohol is legal, everyone is drunk on the job.

if you don’t like it, go start your own country where you all get high everyday, I guarantee you’ll be destroyed in less than a year whether under the power of another or under your own stupidity

I am having a hard time trying to decide if you are for or aginst the legalization of THC and Hemp. Are you saying that the boys killed and THC is to blame? If it were legal they would not need to steal money and in the process kill someone to get it. They could buy it from the store or rob the store and likely get shot by the clerk, but in either case THC is not to blame for the deaths. In strictly chemical sense the death rate of THC is zero. Actual studies have proven that THC produces no physical characteristics of addiction, such as manifastations of cravings, or withdrawl symptoms. The cartels will lose 90% of their income is THC is legalized then where will they find the money to buy guns? The tax that THC could infues into the system could be used to finance the eradication of drug cartels. The immigration issue does not seem to fit in the discussion, but the legalization of prostitution in Nevada has ment millions in tax dollars and has made the prostitutes and those who buy thier services much safer due to required medical exams and other rules. So it seems to me that you may be arguing for the legalization, but in a sarcastic way.

I am having a hard time trying to decide if you are for or aginst the legalization of THC and Hemp. Are you saying that the boys killed and THC is to blame? If it were legal they would not need to steal money and in the process kill someone to get it. They could buy it from the store or rob the store and likely get shot by the clerk, but in either case THC is not to blame for the deaths. In strictly chemical sense the death rate of THC is zero. Actual studies have proven that THC produces no physical characteristics of addiction, such as manifastations of cravings, or withdrawl symptoms. The cartels will lose 90% of their income is THC is legalized then where will they find the money to buy guns? The tax that THC could infues into the system could be used to finance the eradication of drug cartels. The immigration issue does not seem to fit in the discussion, but the legalization of prostitution in Nevada has ment millions in tax dollars and has made the prostitutes and those who buy thier services much safer due to required medical exams and other rules. So it seems to me that you may be arguing for the legalization, but in a sarcastic way.

I was attacked..by some idiots on the internet -_-

Tee

I was attacked..by some idiots on the internet -_-

Tee

news flash the teachers already smoke it and if your too dense to realize that you cant “just tell” who dose and who dosen’t than your just as ignorant as the people that lied about it to make it “wrong” the fact is that if they made it legal not only could they make tons in tax but also save money on legal fees and processing and it would kill the black market for it reducing crime rates

news flash the teachers already smoke it and if your too dense to realize that you cant “just tell” who dose and who dosen’t than your just as ignorant as the people that lied about it to make it “wrong” the fact is that if they made it legal not only could they make tons in tax but also save money on legal fees and processing and it would kill the black market for it reducing crime rates

did you know that over 99% of crimes are commited within 1 month after hearing music ? i think we must criminalize everything but Hanson

MMMMBOP, take one for the team, that is what AMERICANS DO , restrict freedom based upon fears and lies !

did you know that over 99% of crimes are commited within 1 month after hearing music ? i think we must criminalize everything but Hanson

MMMMBOP, take one for the team, that is what AMERICANS DO , restrict freedom based upon fears and lies !

Are you insane? Don’t you realize that if someone wants to alter their reality and take a drug while teaching they can at any time: they can have a martini, take a prescribed Vicodan, pop a Xanax. None of which any responsible adult would do on the job. If someone did any of these legal things while teaching they should be fired. What makes you think that able, smart, responsible teachers (or Dr.s lawyers, etc.) would run out and get stoned on the job because suddenly marijuana is legal to purchase?! How about tax the crap out of it and put some of that money into schools so children can get a better education in a state with abysmal schools? And, if one of those teachers gets stoned on the job, he/she should be fired not because the substance is illegal but because getting “high” on anything and working is just flat out wrong.
Really, what makes marijuana any different from other mood altering drugs?!
BTW, yes, I have kids and “Everyone will be high on the job”?! Not me. How about you?

Are you insane? Don’t you realize that if someone wants to alter their reality and take a drug while teaching they can at any time: they can have a martini, take a prescribed Vicodan, pop a Xanax. None of which any responsible adult would do on the job. If someone did any of these legal things while teaching they should be fired. What makes you think that able, smart, responsible teachers (or Dr.s lawyers, etc.) would run out and get stoned on the job because suddenly marijuana is legal to purchase?! How about tax the crap out of it and put some of that money into schools so children can get a better education in a state with abysmal schools? And, if one of those teachers gets stoned on the job, he/she should be fired not because the substance is illegal but because getting “high” on anything and working is just flat out wrong.
Really, what makes marijuana any different from other mood altering drugs?!
BTW, yes, I have kids and “Everyone will be high on the job”?! Not me. How about you?

our society is producing less and less because people are too lazy once they start using marijuana, at least i have respect for people who drink alcohol and who take opium, at least they contribute to society.

Well said!

Well said!

Why NOT legalize prostitution? The Netherlands does that, too.

In the Netherlands Marijuana is legal; the Dutch education system ranks 6th! This is 25 spots higher than our pathetic American public school system.Tell me what is wrong with a professional educator that smokes a little weed friday night after a rough week of work, I don’t see a problem! Your aging military minded generation may be able to prevent Prop 19 this time, but in ten years when this proposition resurfaces a younger California will put an end to this prohibition.

Ok TKsweet Alcohol is leagal and people can try to use it on the job but there are rules that keep you from doing it or losing you Job. It is uneducated to believe that Weed would be any different and very short sighted on your part to think so.

Ok TKsweet Alcohol is leagal and people can try to use it on the job but there are rules that keep you from doing it or losing you Job. It is uneducated to believe that Weed would be any different and very short sighted on your part to think so.

Really? Are you really?! If it’s legeal and taxed, it will be regulated, meaning an age of consumption sells regulation, and to top it off, $14billion dollars to put back in the economy! $14 billion that can improve healthcare or education. When alcohol kills over 100k a year and cigs kill well over 450,000 a year, how can you be so close minded when marijuana kills absolutely no one!!! Yes, no one and you can research that fact. It’s a billion dollar cash crop and close minded people like yourself don’t get high you just drink in front of them… I pity people who see the obvious but follow the crowd.

WWJD???

WWJD???

jblout – No offense intended, I know that. I was using that stereotype to illustrate a point to the gentleman I was speaking with. May have been a poor choice to use.

jblout – No offense intended, I know that. I was using that stereotype to illustrate a point to the gentleman I was speaking with. May have been a poor choice to use.

from this statement looks like a stoned teacher taught you. Use spell check or read your blog before posting. This is important when you want to be right. You will need to be grammatically correct as well. Maybe if you were stoned you could have gotten it correct that’s what high does to you. Helps you FOCUS on your task at hand.

Sounds to me like TKSweet is worried about her parenting skills! Do you need laws to raise your kids and to teach them what you feel to be right and wrong? Do feel the government should be able to control what adults do in their own homes?  Adults should be able to do as they wish, as long as that doesn’t infringe on the rights of others. There would still be laws governing marijuana, making it illegal do drive under the influence, or consume it under age.

Sounds to me like TKSweet is worried about her parenting skills! Do you need laws to raise your kids and to teach them what you feel to be right and wrong? Do feel the government should be able to control what adults do in their own homes?  Adults should be able to do as they wish, as long as that doesn’t infringe on the rights of others. There would still be laws governing marijuana, making it illegal do drive under the influence, or consume it under age.

Sounds like the drinkers of the kool-aid really fell for the last min, “teachers will be stoned”, BS What just happened is Americans giving up their right to take care of themselves and want “Big Brother” to do it for them. The whole nation watching you and the State fell to Mexico and the people selling drugs. Wake up, drugs will still be there tomorrow with Mexico regulating them. Have a nice nap.

Sounds like the drinkers of the kool-aid really fell for the last min, “teachers will be stoned”, BS What just happened is Americans giving up their right to take care of themselves and want “Big Brother” to do it for them. The whole nation watching you and the State fell to Mexico and the people selling drugs. Wake up, drugs will still be there tomorrow with Mexico regulating them. Have a nice nap.

Actually, it comes down to whether or not people are REALLY free. Who cares if a drug is ‘dangerous’ or not, I don’t have the right to tell someone not to use it, nor do they have the right to force me to try it. If we were REALLY free, we would make choices based upon what is right for each of us, not what a group of people thinks is best for us. This country has lost the knowledge of what liberty is. It’s about time we bring that back!

Actually, it comes down to whether or not people are REALLY free. Who cares if a drug is ‘dangerous’ or not, I don’t have the right to tell someone not to use it, nor do they have the right to force me to try it. If we were REALLY free, we would make choices based upon what is right for each of us, not what a group of people thinks is best for us. This country has lost the knowledge of what liberty is. It’s about time we bring that back!

WWJD???

haha I think tksweett posted this comment about drunk teachers to get people worked up, Because no one who had half a brain would use that as an argument against god’s green gift.

probably because americans are idiots, and it’s people like you that make this statement so true, if all you people were in prison right now, at least society as a whole would benefit

We would, but might find you there!

i drive better when im high. so if i was you, i wouldnt worry about stoned drivers, are-you-kidding.

Although this may not be the time one day marijuana will be legal. i no longer smoke but am an advocate of legalization and always will be because when you smoke marijuana it teaches you who you really are. you become more peaceful. you cant get so stoned you will go home and beat your wife half to death. The ones that put this down have either never tried it because of reefer madness or have had an isolated bad experiance with it. regadless it is the individuals choice to smoke or not and the government cant take that away. toke on.

by putting faith in enforcement, violence in other words, we are admitting that we are idiots, beause we cannot get smart enough to solve problems by getting to their cause

for example, no one would agree that a man who uses herb, or lsd, or mdma, or anything, to practie religion, is doing something wrong, sofar as he is in a peaceful private like place, and yet , the system does not give a fuck about him

what is wrong with that ? its called intolernace and fear, the problem is not a drug, because hydrodocone takes millions of lives, or trillions, or thousands, or hundreds, by cannabis takes none, and yet doctors give hydrocodone out like andy, and we all know big macs take hundreds of thousands a year, but we do not criminalize fast food,

and image the underground mafia crim from having mcdonalds be done in the alleys , getting a burger from a dealer, know how much worse the world owuld be if we made a war on fast food, instead of A RALLY FOR NUTRITION

DRUG RIGHTS, not DRUG WAR,

for example every person can get a drug liense, and buy their drug of choice, and , if they are totally messed up and dying or something, they can get free treatment based upon the billions in taxes received to make the world abetter place instead of spending billions a year to say JEWS ARE BAD MMMKAY cus what is the difference between hating a jew or a religion of a race, and hating a plant user

you cannot have the auadcity to say all drug users ar ebad, not even cocaine users, heroin users, or lsd users, or anyting of the sort, i bet there are succesful doctors that drop acid. .. because it helps them find god, so who the hell are you to judge and use your power of voting to hurt people ? you will be held accountable , all of you , for voting no

legalization of marjiuans is as important as gay rights, black rights, women rights, it is a human rights issue dammit !

your funny..Does that mean everyone is drunk at work? come on now..lol..your logic is silly

People already smoke and drive! Drunk drivers run through red lights, stoned drivers stop at green lights!

I’m all for outlawing alcohol, but as for cigarettes, they do not change people’s frame of mind which is what my argument against you is all about. Marijuana may not kill (I use the word may here instead of doesn’t because it has not been completely proven that it has no adverse health effects), but that is not the issue, the issue is it changes your frame of mind and causes you to function at a lower level and therefore hurts society.

“legalization of marjiuans is as important as gay rights, black rights, women rights, it is a human rights issue”

this s worth contemplating, you will never be a good american if you cannot think for yourself, and let the tv and its strong parental fear coaxing make you hate and commit hate crimes against others voting no on the right to use pot legally is like voting no on the right to be black, or an athetist or gay

its as absurd as VOTING TO **** BAN****** THE MARRIAGE OF “GAYS” that is a HORRIBLE ABUSE OF POWER, leave them the hell alone, they aren’t going out to marry YOU !

In the Netherlands Marijuana is legal; the Dutch education system ranks 6th, 25 spots higher than our pathetic American public school system.
Tell me what is wrong with a professional educator that smokes a little weed friday night after a rough week of work, I don’t see a problem!

The aging military minded generation may be able to prevent Prop 19 this time, but in ten years when this proposition resurfaces a younger California will put an end to this prohibition.

parents killed this proposition. i’m not saying thats good or bad. I imagine way more people w/o children voted for it and people with children against it

this election is like the slavery days, imagine slaves trying to vote yes for freedom, and al the slave owners, bigots, and the ignorant and profit hungry , and many others voting no , for fear that if the black man is freed he will , like go crazy or something for realll ike duhhh !

i really do not think peopl ewould ever ever, vote to end slavery in those times, but somehow we had , well if i recal history correctly i am not a maor in it, the highers up decide to put a stop to it , which, might have to be the case for pot ….

try having the german svote no on hitlers war, half of them seemed enthralled by his every word, cus they are stupid, like anyone who thinks a war on a floweirng plant is safer than the plant itself, its a WAR ! there is nothing safe about a war on a flowering plant its like a war on masturbation

Wait, wait….people who smoke opium are more productive than people who smoke cannabis? *blink* Okay, please re-check that. You do realize that opium is an opiate? In the same family as morphine and heroin…?

People are born gay, people are born black, people are born women, no one is born is marijuana user. It is the result of poor decisions, not unpreventable circumstances.

There’s a difference between being pro-legalization and pro-initiative. Prop 19 is a pathway to corporatizing marijuana and making new prohibitions to incarcerate the typical user and consumer. As it is now, with Prop 215 medical marijuana laws, we are enjoying the benefits of cultivating our own and smoking it in our privacy for medical purposes. Already, marijuana is decriminalized and treated only as an infraction in California for those possessing an ounce or less so those who think Prop 19 would decrease incarcerations of typical users are wrong. In fact, Prop 19 adds more stipulation to existing liberties such as selling a joint without a $3000 license, or smoking in your own home while a minor is present is punishable with jail time and a fine. This Prop 19 is not what it’s made out to be. It’s simply a way for big business to usurp the local growers from profits. As far as the potential revenue from the taxation of its enterprise, it stipulates in the initiative that it will be funneled into law enforcement, so instead of ending prohibition, the tax money generated will be used to expand it.

http://votetaxcannabis2010.blogspot.com/

to tksweett: don’t be a jackass. i don’t want boozed up teachears either, but alcoholo is still legal. and since it’s actually illegal to be under the influence (even if the drug itself is NOT illegal), it doesn’t really matter if the substance itself is illegal. same with people on the job. most jobs have stipulations that you cannot be under the influence, and again it doesn’t matter if the substance itself is illegal. you’ve used a horribly stupid effing argument.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! You smug liberal f&%$ Ups!!! Can’t go smoke a bowl legally? Oh No! What is the world gonna do? Go on and be better for it!!! Yeah thats what this society needs, endorse another way to get high, uh huh, good answer. Sounds like something a pothead would say.

Fool! Just because the Northern states won the ‘Civil War’ doesn’t mean that they were right. They just had the numbers to shove their will down the throats of the South. You sir, could use a good dose of the Constitution, along with a taste of liberty. I’m not a dope smoker, nor will I be. I just understand that freedom allows others to make choices even when I disagree with them, just as some might disagree with mine. The more government regulates, taxes, or controls something, the less free we are. The ONLY problem I had with this proposition was on those points. The marijuana meant nothing to me!

lol, I’ve never seen anyone steal or killed for a cup of coffee. Marijuana is bad whether it is legal or illegal. Marijuana makes you stupid, coffee withdrawal just gives you a headache. Wow, you are ignorant Anna Marie. Sorry, bad analogy. Again, lol.

Rockstar22.. you a moron, MJ is a herb why should a herb be illegal in the first place… im sure theres other plants out there that can get you high, just people haven’t put propaganda up against it to save there own wealthy ass’s, other drugs are made chemic’ly which is illegal to do anywhere but a lab. also legalizing a herb….(aka MJ) would free so many innocent people from jail and save money on minor users and focus more on Upper grade criminals and not reducing sentences because of our low resources in criminal justice. Im all for it because of how retarded it is to make something that has been here way before anyone illegal if it is part of the land we die and are buried in….

I am glad that there is a reasonable person here

Duh duh duh duh duh. Dats a good point alecK. So lets get some heroin and drive around. Better yet how about i do it before I drive your mom around.

Aliens? Oh you mean illegal immigrants…. people who come to America for a better life without waiting 5-10 years to go through the system while watching their children grow up without a chance. You know most times human spirit acts in reference to survival thats what makes it easier to live in this world. MJ can do that you know help people relax and be more tolerant. It doesn’t have to have negative connotations. its just like everything else used that effects our systems. Take some benadryl see how you feel.

just please if you don’t want people to have the freedom to cultivate herbal enjoyables, go move to iraq or something you are not an american . know why the so called terrorist are so wealthy, well, we allowed a huge black market called DRUGS to exist, a black market will attract some good peopl ewho love the drug, like you love your starbucks, but they will also attract bad people, mmmkay ?

if $!8 billion a year is given to public schools instead of reefer madness death squad task fore liberty commanders, then maybe the nation can actually be a good place ? are you stupid ? I hope you aren’t !

contemplate drug licenses, if you are on the verge of death from your drug of choicec, upon purchasing it they might kindly give you some free treatment wit those billions invested in compassion instead of hate, and of course, the law enforcement will be better equipped to intervene in any acts of public danger since they aren’t out doing god knows what else that is so useless , a waste of tim ean dmoney

if the chief of police of LAPD wants this stuff legal what the hell are you people voting no for ? he knows better than most !

i would hate to see if we had a vote to send gays to the moon , i bet it would get a lot of yes votes, what about america is worth infringing upon the peaceful actions of a person ?

this is all you need to know,
NO INURED PARTY = NOT A CRIME .

and i will speak once more, all harm from drugs is minor compared to the harm aused by black market activities and enforement of laws upon peaceful citizens , many of who m are upstanding family men ,

so what if a dcotor gets high on the weekend ?

marijauans is a proven cancer cure, did you know that ? people are getting brain damage from a lie of coffee and then when they get alzheimers they are told “you don’t have a cure ” and yet every year , marijuana cures this , marijuana cures that, coming out on the news, its a viable alzheimers cure, a cure for dementia,

what the hell do you have against a plant, don’t use it if you don’t like it, how dare you use your power to harm anothers liberty !

Drugs used in medicine are routinely given what is called an LD-50. The LD-50 rating indicates at what dosage fifty percent of test animals receiving a drug will die as a result of drug induced toxicity. A number of researchers have attempted to determine marijuana’s LD-50 rating in test animals, without success. Simply stated, researchers have been unable to give animals enough marijuana to induce death.

Plus marijuana encompasses over 5,000 years human experience.

The fact that it’s still illegal is ridiculous.

source: http://drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/30

Get wise, legalize! People smoking anyways, might as well make your state some recurring income…

Why do people always bring up kids. The legal age to purchase marijuana was to be 21. Teachers drink alcohol and teach children. Are all teachers who drink, drunk when they teach kids. This is crazy talk. Most people who don’t smoke pot today, wouldn’t smoke it tomorrow if it were made legal. Some people would, because now it’s legal, some smoke it now even with it being illegal. When are we going to let the grown ups in this country decide what is best for them and their families. Hell, kids are more likely to know where to get pot now than adults are.

to tksweett: don’t be a jackass. i don’t want boozed up teachears either, but alcohol is, in fact, legal. It’s actually illegal to be under the influence (even if the substance itself is NOT illegal). So the question of the substance being legal or illegal is irrelevant since the mere act of being intoxicated falls under felony child endangerment. most other jobs also have stipulations that you cannot be under the influence, and again it doesn’t matter if the substance itself is illegal. you’ve used a horribly stupid effing argument.

lol it’s the only time I actually go the speed limit.

Ah, my bad, sorry, then. I have been having trouble keeping up, and it’s late, and I’m tired. Apologies to Aleck. I’m headed to bed.

Okay, please do explain the process as to how marijuana physically decreases once intelligence. It makes you silly for 2 hours, sure. So does a caffeine high though, along with alcohol, tabacco and other substances. There is no withdrawal for marijuana either.

Opium is the source of all opiates, it is not in and of itself an opiate. Opium can in no way be considered the same thing as heroin or even morphine. But historically all the hard working people who built the transcontinental railroad were almost all opium users. But tell me, what important projects were completed by marijuana users? None, and you know why? Because they are the laziest people you will ever meet. Most are so obsessed with marijuana that they accomplish nothing else.

better than them being drunk… ive had drunk teachers before…

I like the idea of killing them all better

Please don’t tell tksweett that! She’ll bring back prohibition. lol People who can’t control themselves and their families always want someone to control everyone.

ok what about prozac

The reason people are against it is because the rule is that you can smoke as much as you want until getting behind the wheel of a car. Now, I am all for the legalization of marijuana, but i can see why people would be weary about it, due to the fact that there is no known test that could completely verify if you are currently high, opposed to the breathilizer in which it is simple to catch drunk drivers.

I’m off to bed. Better luck in 2012! *waves and goes*

I seems as though the majority of people on this site are for prop. 19…how did it fail? There are so many people out there with dreams and opinons, but do nothing about it. You’re just using your own dreams as drugs, and this is way worse than smoking weed. I don’t like weed at all, but I still voting yes on prop. 19. I can’t believe the ignorance of people who just see the word “marijuana” and think to themselves “NO WAY!” Prop19 would have done nothing but good for this state. I would like to keep faith in people, but its just so hard.

As I prayed about the situation, I felt that God would not legalize something that was simply another escape. If he wouldn’t then I shouldn’t.

People become so obsessed with marijuana once they become regular users that they rarely talk, or think, of anything else and that in and of itself does not demonstrate intelligence. Marijuana may not make you stupid, but only stupid people start using it. As for tobacco and caffeine, they make no difference in the way you think and process information, they just give you a little energy.

Oh yea and lets just legalize prostitution, crack, speed, heroin, murder rape, and drinking while driving…BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE DOING THAT ANYWAY!!!! Seriously you should not be allowed to vote.

For real TKSweett!? you think a ton of people arnt high on the job now!? Fuck that, i know several people, named employ’s of month, year, ect. that are always high. So to You, yes i would want my child to be taught by a stoned teacher. I mean really lol Why do you think this current generation of kids are great, they are only happy when connected to the world by 15 strings of Mass social networking, and its only going to get worse. Our Current state in this world is saddening, whether it be socially, finically, economically, or educational, and therefore to refute a change that hasn’t been tested in almost a century is a pathetic cop out based of irrational thoughts and fears. You need to be objective about the state of the world, why isn’t working, and how could it be better, not be scared of a bunch of “stoners” in the class room.

You are an idiot. Just because you have kids doesn’t give you the right to project your irrational insecurities onto every damn thing that you fear. Wake up and learn to see past your own twisted view of all things you perceive as evil and in a worst case scenario. Moron.

Everyone is so upset about this law being passed or not! Weather it is passed or not, it will not change anything! People will continue to smoke, and they will always be able to find it! As for the person who wrote about drunk drivers verses stoned drivers! Well Hello Pot has been around for ever! People have been driving stoned for along time already! I have never heard of any accidents involving a stoned driver! I am not saying it does not happen, I am just saying drunk drivers seem to hold the record! It is unfortunate that people form such a negitive oppinion about pot! I know people who are prescribed medication (Adivan, lorazapan, seriquel) and still get behind the wheel of a car! I do not smoke pot! I do not even like the high! But I see nothing wrong with it! I would much rather deal with someone stoned than someone who is drunk! Well good luck to you all! Better luck next time!

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contemplate also this : a native american an in many states use peyote, but , why , can people of religion who are not native amerian, who also find the spirit of peyote real, ABSOLUTELY REAL, and a life chaining morale that helps them overcome selfishness, depression, anxiety, fear, hatred, alcoholism, addictions, and is a true sacrament to their holy god , why can they not, lawfully , in most states but Arizona, use it ? what kind of asshole would you be to prison your neighbor because he likes indian food and you like hinese food ? its all based upon bigotry , period !yes, so 1 in 10 million people that eat indian food are adolph hitler, but not really , is that a reason to harm the ones that are peaceful NO INJURED PARTY = NOT A CRIME, contemplate this or you are not an american, but a fascist, we do not progress into safety by harming innocent people with flawed policies ! we are one of the only societies in the history of mankind to banish getting high , most all other societies love to get high, as we do but celebrate it is a part of their natural culturelsd has hippies, new agers, shamanspeyote has the similar, and native amercansganja has indians, rastafariansopium the chinese, its all soething that those ucltures absolutely adored these things because all of them have a medical value ( including acid, look it up , and see what it is used for by medical professionals ) a spiritual value ( even coca, but maybe not cocaine ) social value, so , look if you drink coffee or tea every day you are a drug user, coffee ruins lives, i promise you it does, should we ban it ? no .

being american does not mean that you get your status quo white bread freedoms, but damn anyone different than you that they don’t get the same freedom
LIE LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS, now look here,

heavy metal in some cases, causes , coaxes at least, suicide, etc, so do drugs, so what it is sad when anything causes harm, including hamburgers, guns, fireworks, but it is unamerican to flat out ban something that a vast majority of people use peacefully with little to no problems.

with cannabis there is zero argument for its prohbition, all people that have studied it in any way conclude it is one of the safest “drugs” in existence, what are we talking about doing , do not discriminate against liberty !

Nancy Pelosi has a $100,000. a month bar tab on her private plane that tax payers pay for. I want to be at one of those parties!

okay for some people who suffer from depression, but not for everyone, as a true medication at least it is properly distributed to a PHARMACY

Plenty teachers come into work buzzed and leave drunk. I have had some really intelligent engaging professors that reeked of alcohol and gave me a great education w/o endangering me; yet I might have enjoyed a teacher that was baked, especially in Kindergarten. Can you imagine how great story time and finger painting would be.

Where are the issues about teachers on prescription drugs? Those are some useless lectures.

Just stop. You have obviously not done your research and are making yourself sound completely ignorant with your rambling. Just because you had jury duty one time and saw this ONE specific case, I guess your an expert now? First off, being stoned vs. being drunk are two completely different things. And there are an alarming number of instances where children were BEATEN and abused in horrible ways by parents under the influence of alcohol. Alcohol is a far more dangerous drug and undoubtedly brings out the worst in people (in most cases). Secondly, alcohol stays in your system much longer than marijuana. And what about all of the people who’s lives are cut short from the toll of excessive alcohol consumption over their lifespan or the teens and young adults who have died from alcohol poisoning? …Marijuana poisoning?…I don’t think so. Next time, please do yourself a favor and educate yourself before speaking.

if people would choose to use Marijuana to unwind and loosen up as opposed to alcohol the world would be a much safer better place. NO one smokes a joint and goes home to beat their wife.

As I prayed about this I felt impressed upon by the Spirit of God that this was simply another escape. I felt that God would not be pleased with this passing, so I had to vote with that conviction. We don’t need another escape, we need a superior reality. I respect other opinions, I just felt that I should share mine.

a society must have safeguards to prevent the people or officials from infringing upon liberties, apparently ours does not but is trying to .

I would just like to state that salvia is somehow legal, whereas marijuana is illegal!
Enough said.

Right.. the backwards logic of idiots like tksweet is reason enough to legalize the stoning of self righteous morons that see devil horns on everything they cant comprehend.

Here is the issue, the use of cannabis will likely be regulated by business. So If a teacher shows up to school stoned THEY WILL BE FIRED. just as any teacher who shows up being drunk or anything eles.. Just because Alcohol is legal does not mean we have falling down drunks for teachers.. ARGUMENT DENIED!

and in addition to what he said, let’s require a $45 murder tax and $35 rape tax so that the state can make come money off that too lol

Dog gon it I was just about to write that… Argument against 19 Status….. FAIL!

The idiot parade has arrived.

In Canada they have over the counter Aspirin with Codeine. It is great for head aches and any pain you may have. Canadian’s have had it for years and they don’t have a problem. Codeine is a controlled substance in the U.S. and can only be purchased with a prescription. Why is that, we are adults, are we? If we are so stupid we can’t make our own decisions what is good for us and what isn’t maybe we should have a better education system.

not enoguh said andrew, all things are legal , no man can stop another man from doing something that is a mere curiosity , only when there is an injured party such as acts of murder, damage to property , theft, etc, can the law have any case over a man, the rest is liberty

this is the foundation of america, legalize everything, because that is the only way to make durgs realistically safe, the rest , the war itself, makes the world dangerous, anything criminalized becomes 10,000 x more dangerous than it once was, an dladen with crime in the shadows where there should be sun and forgiveness,

why did mexcio briefly decriminalize all drugs ? because they know worst of all how horrible the WAR is compared to the drugs themselves, and then america said MMMKAY…. well, it didn’t last very long.

illegal drugs are easy for kids to get, legal ones aren’t, they usually have to be at least 18 or have a parent or older friend get them from a store.

the issue is, there is always going to be money ( for along long time) and drugs, the only thing is do we want it be a nightmare of a mess or a fairly clean situation with as little harm as possible, no way to stop it .

it is an issue of liberty , does this somehow not make sense to peole ? some people like to be gay , or eat meat, or shoot guns, or this an dthat, or do fireworks, but only when they are doing these things in , or to an unconsenting public is it dangerous ,

just because a person is conservative doesn’t make them an anti-cannabis raging alcoholic…

You seem to be the one with no life considering your plethora of comments.

check this out iam from n idaho lived in n cal for 32 yrs i just got arrested for pot brownies put in jail with 100000 dollar bond looking at 5 yrs in jail 10,000 dollar fine

the reality is that eventual people are going to do it anyways accept it and spend the money fighting it on education, thats where the need is. I say that the way the next prop should be written where the money from the tax paid should be spent strictly on education watch what happens to us as a people

because look

you can kill yourself with video games, some poeple have starved themselves to death with everquest, literally , i mean it ! it has happened, do we ban those ?

what is the point in banning things, the point of law is that it must be based on common law, claims between living actual parties, not corporate interests.

regulation is one thing , that may be tolerable and totally useful, but to know anything you have to think about it, you can’t totally just read what someone else says, but they can hep you, at times .

for example :
one man uses cocaoine a lot, does not have a real problem, eoy its, same as another mans jack daneisl, just a different type of action, same principle
yet another man will be destroyed by cocaine, it is not the drug it is his psychological inneworkings , and the reasons he has for using it, that dictate his adequacy in safety , or total doom

the same with operating a vehicle, they let just abotu any loon get a car really , why not pull over jerk drivers, but let people generally go whatever speeds they want within reason, the speed limits are good in regulation sense but not good to violently enforce,

because why are they not pulling over belligerent crazy jerk drives, instead of just waiting for someone to go to 70 or 75 ?

look it is obvious, tailgating can create an accident, going 70 , in a 65 ? so what ? and yet, if someone is in front of you slow down, don’t tailgate them, or go around them,

see , fear of punishment is a horrible thing , it makes people mediocre and dumb and dull it does not teach them the RIGHT way to act.

look we could easily justify not having freedom of speech because lots of people use it wrongly , i wager words harm more people than cannabis.

the point is NO INJURED PARTY = NO CRIME

if your neighbor makes you smoke cannabis through force and violence then , okay , take him to court, if he smokes cannabis on his spare days , and is a good worker, so what, and that is true for cocaine, heroin, everything.

The statement was comparing the two. How one, which in my opinion, is 1000 x stronger than marijuana can be legal. It was provoking the question of how this makes sense. Why one is legal and the other is not. Not to be confused with stating that salvia needs to be illegal.

Jesus Christ you know, football is more dangerous than pot .

i am pretty sure you will find dozens of football players in pain for life, who were also once pot smokers and quit, the pain is from violent injury in a very , IMO obnoxious and silly sport, that they HAVE THE RIGHT TO PLAY , because it is consensual,

we an go fucking box each other punching each other in the face, why the hell not eat mushrooms instead and contemplate god ?

if it is about public safety we would ban boxing, wrestling, football, and legalize marijuana because it is a cancer cure

it is about , money bigotry , fear, prejudice, ignorance, profit, and a lot of other odd things, that have nothing to do with liberty , we annot take the freedom of consensual responsible adults away , yes some people take a car and drive it into a bridge to commit suicide, yes some people, even with marijuana, get a bit , messed up at times, create some problems, and yet they do it with video games, too, and hambugers, and beer, and tobacco, so what

we cannot regulate intelligence but we can increase education, instead of banning things. would you ban cars on account of 1 in 1000 bad drivers ? people seem to think being high is not useful, it is the most useufl thing to the psychological science, they are so eager to be allowed to research, all the people of human history hae a use for each drug in a useful way , sometimes recreationally , sometimes as a medicine, what the hell is wrong with us ? we get high every day on coffee, does anyone not understand the merits of sanity, respoisbility , kindness, and harm prevention ?

drugs are only a medical issue, not a crime issue . the black market is a bigger danger, the war is useless.

a person who plays video games all day and is very fat can have a lie time of pain, i am not makin gfun i now these people their entire bodies are just , hurting so much, they refuse to exercise and som eof them are to the point where they CAN’T exercise, its form inactivity , ew are not criminalizing this inactivity and laziness are wwe ? these people then get stuck on hydrocodone pills for life to try to get rid of the pain they brought upon thesmselves of their own choies ,

this hydrocodone kills people, ask Michel Jackson, pot doesn’t, do we really see a reason for a drug war instead of basic compassion and comon sense ?

my typing is only because of my eyesight, i hope you will be able to understand it .

Should it be legal?? YES, but should we pass prop 19? NO! The federal government will turn against us and stop helping us with funding, that includes 9.3billion dollars out of education!

tksweett, do you like the fact that it’s MUCH easier for your kids to buy marijuana than it is an adult? Seriously, as illegal, the older you get the harder it is to know someone that sells it. The younger you are – the easier, you can get it in an hour or less. And if legalized doesn’t mean people would go to work stoned anymore than they would go to work drunk. The majority of adults are responsible, but the government wishes to treat everyone like children. Alcohol prohibition didn’t work, either is marijuana prohibition, and alcohol is highly intoxicating and physically damaging (including death) where marijuana is not. Adults should have the right to choose to drink, toke, or not. It isn’t the government’s job to choose for us. Back during alcohol prohibition vineyards were selling grapes mail order with instructions on how to ferment and make wine, even members of congress made their own wine this way, it’s all documented in Time magazine’s archived issues dating back to the early 20′s. This double standard is ridiculous.

I am very disappointed Proposition 19 was voted down. I don’t even like marijuana and wouldn’t smoke it if it were legal. It would be nice to see American’s treated like adults for a change, responsible for their own choices. Canada has over the counter Aspirin with Codeine and they have no problems. I guess American’s are to dumb to control ourselves. We need the government telling us what we can and can’t do. It’s a sad day! Maybe in 2012.

I think I will only make one more point now, TV is the greatest threat to American libety, of course it is not the tv but the people’s intentions who manipulate our minds,

all this intelligent thought occuring here, but turn that tv on and you get the idea to hate your neighbors, be suspicious of everything, and sign your liberties away because of why ? liberties make us SAFE , period, EDUCATION is th esolution to all problems which includes abundance and the end of poverty

there would , and will be no hate and violence in middle east hwen the issues of poverty are done away with and educaiton is based upon virtues instead of hate and fear, same with america, end poverty

$18 billion a year on a drug war is enough money to feed every peson starving to death righ tnow this very moment in agony because they cannot find a way into a labor class, and a way out of being a slave,

do you REALLY THINK WE NEED A DRUG WAR , or do we need to make the world a better place? a drug war is a war on freedom and personal liberty , it is a war on abundance, it is a war on compassion, it is a war on common sense

schedule i drugs , MARIUANA IS NOT SCHEDULE ONE BY VERY HYPOCRISY OF THEIR LANAUGE BECAUSE THROUGHOUT AL HUMAN HISTORY IT IS KNOWN AS A MEDICINAL HERB , period ,
schedule i , to those peeps, tmeans “no medical value ” hypocrisy ! how dare they not reschedule it at the very least . SAME WITH LSD, MDMA, PSILOCYBIN,

all of these are verified by medical science and professionals with tremendous medicinal potential.

i suppose i cannot stop making valid points right now

imagine , the middle east once wnated to ban coffee, cus , blah blah god, well, good for them ( NOT ) can you imagine , enoying your cup of coffee fearing someone will put you in jail ? DAMN YOU COFFEE HEADS YOU ARE ALL TWITCH , I HATE YOU ,

that’s so stupid, its just a culture, pot is a culture, all these things are overwhelmingly not as harmful as we make them out to be . it is a conditioned prejudice and fear , same as being taught to hate a jew or a black or a white or anything, why hate a drug ? I mean , damn, the very drugs that kill people also can save people’s lives, its the person really ,
i would say EDUCATION not WAR

from my reading and learning it is only by very slim agreement that coffee was not banned in the middle east a long whil ago , can you imagine a black market coffee drug kingpen how stupid would that be , and coffee is very very very very very very bad for your body,

rather people smoke pot than that myself personally , although not at most offices, workplaces,

that or ur fuckn stoned u hippy.. go smoke a bowl and blow ur brains out.

did prop 19 pass?

How many people die in cars each year? They’re dangerous to our health and well being, create air pollution, keep us dependent on foreign countries for fuel, and yet they’re still legal. Amazing.

Like everyone is drunk on the job and that’s not punishable at all, right?

No they won’t, California holds more house seats and popular votes than any other state in the country, you can’t just choose to cut California off without putting a bullet in your political career

Had marijuana been legal those teenagers would’ve had a MUCH harder time buying it (like alcohol and tobacco) and the price is high… because it’s illegal.

the restriction of any valid and agreeable freedom creates a culture of horrible ignorant people that , not knowing or experiencing that freedom, agree with its persecution.
with cannabis , every learned man at least says that, when it is not smoked, it is a valid medicinal treatment far superior to about anything on the face of this earth

god is a bit slapping us in the face, thinking we can synthesize and make synthetic something already so complete,

no cancer cure ? yes there is , hemp oil.
no alzheimers cure ? yes there is ….
now why would you make syhetetic pot when you can grow a strain rich in the type of experience you have found medicinal ? that is silly ,

docs giv people opiates for pain those opiates can kill you ,

the aspirin in the opiates destroys the liver,
now if a doc gave you pot , some people would say that is wrong ? how foolish !

i a hoping the votes go crazy YES in the next few minutes and we have a victory for liberty , compassion, sanity , and getting high , not because you should get high, and not because you should not, but because it is an issue of freedom

the right for people who are saying ” look, we are already doing this, pleas leave us alone, we don’t want to hurt you , we are normal people. ”
i hope those people are the majority and they all voted yes .

In the small town where I live they have an annual festival of beer tasting at numerous “beer gardens” and guess what this benefits? A local youth program! Nice, huh? But that’s okay – it’s the glorified substance known as beer, sponsor of sports events across the country that kids are drawn to.

Sounds like Tee would be a lot nicer if she/he had a little marijuana to relax with.

Your daughter just proved my statement to your first post, it’s easy for kids to get – now while illegal. Not so easy for adults over the age of 30. How easy is it for your daughter to buy alcohol or cigarettes? The legal substances.

Oh yeah what a great idea, let’s keep marijuana illegal and Americans can keep taking “true medications”. These “true medications” are created from synthetic chemicals in a lab, which destroy your liver and create potential for a list of horrendous side-effects. You know what I’m talking about. Who hasn’t seen a commercial for some man-made drug and been disgusted with the list of potential and scary risks of taking the medication. Or those drugs that after years of being on the market, doctors come forth saying, whoops this is actually more harmful than it is good. I know that there are certain medications that are very necessary to some individuals such as high blood pressure meds, etc. But when it comes to sleep aides and anti-anxiety/depression medication, I’d much rather use something that grows naturally out of the ground and doesn’t poison my body with man-made toxins, we get enough of that as it is.

I don’t believe in god, but I think that if a god existed he wouldn’t care if people partook in a plant that he would have created and put on the earth, that has a MULTITUDE of benefits for mankind. If you look at how civilization was back in the days Jesus was said to have been around, then you know that most likely, Jesus probably smoked marijuana himself, not to mention it was extremely common in those days to use it for religious and sacrificial ceremonies. No. Weed is illegal because of governmental greed, and the peoples ignorance and gullibility. God would look down on this horrible prohibition

totally spoken in favor of by stoners! People said NO so the answer is NO. It is a mind altering drug that leads to other d rugs. Keep getting high but not legally. End of story.

maybe every single singer or band you have ever listened too?

hey im a recent college grad that smokes not regularly but as a way of relieving stress. Let me tell you that every time i feel very tired ( i work in construction and still go to school) i smoke some weed, you could never sleep better than when your on weed. Another thing most of my family in mexico grows this stuff , not for them but to sell to drug cartels, so their hoping it wont pass because that will make business on their side go down hence drug traffikcing on cannibus terms. Come on people thare is not anything wrong with weed if anything the pharmeceutical companys in america dont want it to pass either you name me one herb that has more medcinal properties that marijuana there probably isnt. but yet they could sell stuff like vikadin, zanax, among other things that super harmful to people addictive and it causes overdoces. people need to do research.

Tksweett: keeping fear alive.

By the way, how easy is it for anyone to get a prescription for anti-depressants? An addictive legal drug that is so over-prescribed it’s hard not to leave a doctors office without it. Our family has had to hospital detox 3 family members off of doctor prescribed medications, my elderly grandmother for one where prescribed medications actually caused her death and she lived in an assisted living facility. Why is it prescribed? Because it makes you feel good. No other reason. I will not take doctor prescribed addictive harmful medications. Who’s against legalizing marijuana? Big Pharma for one. Big Alcohol for another. Do a google/yahoo search on cannabis oil curing cancer and other diseases and see what you find. Do you think Big Cancer wants this info out or this plant legalized? Big Cancer is Big Big Business. Search Rick Simpson.

the only singers that do dope are all those annoying black rappers who jump around like monkeys

this prop is a sham! I love to smoke weed but this prop is much like the stamp act its legal to have weed if you have the stamp but illegal to have the stamp. they are just trying to get stoners to vote it in so they can regulate it to the point of extermination. if you have under an ounce right now it’s a misdemeanor but if 19 passed and you have an ounce and can’t prove you got it from a legal source it jail time + fines no on 19 wait till a better law is in the polls http://votetaxcannabis2010.blogspot.com/

Sir, you are probably the single most repellent being I’ve ever seen online..THERE WILL OBVIOUSLY BE RESTRICTIONS ON WHETHER YOU CAN BE HIGH FOR BLANK OR YOU CANT BE HIGH IF YOUR POSITION REQUIRES BLANK AMOUNT OF RESPONSIBILITY

Sir, you are probably the single most repellent being I’ve ever seen online..THERE WILL OBVIOUSLY BE RESTRICTIONS ON WHETHER YOU CAN BE HIGH FOR BLANK OR YOU CANT BE HIGH IF YOUR POSITION REQUIRES BLANK AMOUNT OF RESPONSIBILITY

Yes, but are all people over the age of 21 willing to go buy an under aged kid some alcohol or weed? no, a lot of them will say no. You’re pointing out one of the most basic fears that’s preventing prop 19 from ever passing. Do you want have gangs fighting over drug money and territory? Do you want all of the money from drugs to go into the hands of criminals? No? Then legalize it so the money can come back to us.

california dropped the ball and made the mexican drug cartel stronger thank a bunch for shooting down what might have put this country back on its feet in taxes real nice

Alcohol is legal and do you care if your teachers come in drunk or hungover? The same people that come in hungover would come in high, it has nothing to do with the drug itself, it’s the people using them.

Really idiot = read the comments there all from your slow asses . I never said its easy for kids to get than adults right now. I dont have a problem with adults smoking in privacy of there own home. I know many people & yes i’ve actually smoked before , its just legalize this , then cocaine , etc… Dont be ignorant . The police dont do there jobs now what makes you think this wont get out of control. But everyone has a right to there opinion. & no my kids dont smoke . I grew up in a family of drug abuse ,which started with alcohol then weed, then cocaine… Then no more mom then no more dad & now my sister in rehab so sorry that my opinion bothers all you smokers so damb much!

Tee

A.C i can see you really need a toke !!

Tee

COmee onnn TKSWEEET! DO YOU REALLY THINK THE TEACHERS R GONNA B HIGH IN DURING SKOOL!! HAHAH!
if THEY WANNA GET FIREDD…..

tksweett… do not confuse the issue. Anna is right… legalization does not = free reign to do it whenever. Like alcohol, it would be controlled/taxed/etc… which, as anna pointed out, would generate hundreds of millions in revenue for our bankrupt State, rather than the drug lords across the border. Also, it would save hundreds of millions on a failing “war.” By the way, a new study came out yesterday showing alcohol as being the number 1 most dangerous drug in the world. Here is the science: http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/healthscience/2010/November/Study-Alcohol-Most-Dangerous-Drug/.

Raise your kids right. show them love, respect, dignity, and communicate with them. If you want to keep them off the pole, spend more time at home with them, and less time in the streets trying to make things illegal. An alarmingly high majority of addicts come from broken homes, abusive families, and environments that reflect no love.

I do find it amusing that many will make your same argument, Tksweett, while sipping on a glass of wine. So much hypocracy, so little time.

ahaha thats sooo truee!

ahaha thats sooo truee!

Me too lmao!

Thats soo true!!
Im a sickk stonerr! I smooked for 2 yrs already! & i havent died!
I PERSONALLY think that alcohol is bad bcuz when you drink, you cause drama, fights, n maybee be rapped while being drunk there’s alot more things i can say against alcohol!

Thats soo true!!
Im a sickk stonerr! I smooked for 2 yrs already! & i havent died!
I PERSONALLY think that alcohol is bad bcuz when you drink, you cause drama, fights, n maybee be rapped while being drunk there’s alot more things i can say against alcohol!

thts soo truee! i agree with yoou! ” I would bet everything I own that their are way way way way more alcoholic neglectful parents than neglectful parents that smoke herb”
Thannkk you!

suuree blame that shyt on the phoone! Mayn shut the fuck up!

suuree blame that shyt on the phoone! Mayn shut the fuck up!

ha this is so funny! Sure ur kids dont smoke…they probably do it behind YOUR BACK !!!!!

haha thiss is sooo true! lmao

I drive stonned too, & actually think i drrive more carefully when im stoned rather then if im soobber up!

Oh you have such a positive outlook on life. Thanks your so sweet . So it makes you smile to think kids get high … Wow your such a great person have a good one !

Tee

Oh you have such a positive outlook on life. Thanks your so sweet . So it makes you smile to think kids get high … Wow your such a great person have a good one !

Tee

Your smart . I can tell . Maybe you shouldnt smoke weed maybe you need anger management haha . Love u too !

Tee

Ok , so you all are really smart & knowing what you know about alcohol you agree to keep legalizing more & more drugs . Real smart

Tee

Yah si they are gonna drug test teachers ? I didnt think so & its in sytstem for a long time so wuldnt matter . Most people on here r so close minded. Do u really think only concern is teachers. Why dont you stop commenting on my opinion & go do something useful .. That matters

Tee

Yah si they are gonna drug test teachers ? I didnt think so & its in sytstem for a long time so wuldnt matter . Most people on here r so close minded. Do u really think only concern is teachers. Why dont you stop commenting on my opinion & go do something useful .. That matters

Tee

Thank you !

Tee

Thank you !

Tee

Wow thats smart so either way they cause an accident lol

Tee

Wow thats smart so either way they cause an accident lol

Tee

No … Its obviously a diffrent kind of high , like every drug. A little visine, a little slower , a lil lazier , & a bunch of people with munchies . I understand for medical reasons but come on, nothing else can increase a persons appatite. Im just saying. Please this would not be controlled. Stupid to think it wuld be watch the news look at the idiots who want it. That speaks 4 itself

Tee

Exactly my friend, exactly

Exactly my friend, exactly

the real news is that there are over 25 million people in CA. and less than 2 millon voted on this prop ????????????? W.T.F.

oh like there wont be restrictions on it, people are drunk on the job all the time you probably are right now. read a book called cannabinomics by Dr. Christopher Glenn Fichner. M.D. I almost died by the hands of a drunk driver Riding my Harley and I need the medical cannabis Icut my pill intake in half. Most people who smoke weed dont experience reefer madness. In fact Ive never heard of anyone at all do something about all of the idiots talking and texting on their cell phones.