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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 07:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jdmeara.... Well... it looks like the polls weren&#039;t too far off. Maybe they too realized that not many people have land lines anymore and went about gathering their information in other ways.... because that shit got DENIED!!!! lol. Way to go on being optimistic though. : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jdmeara&#8230;. Well&#8230; it looks like the polls weren&#8217;t too far off. Maybe they too realized that not many people have land lines anymore and went about gathering their information in other ways&#8230;. because that shit got DENIED!!!! lol. Way to go on being optimistic though. : )</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 07:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn... Finally someone in here with some brains. Your 100% correct Shermin8tor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn&#8230; Finally someone in here with some brains. Your 100% correct Shermin8tor.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 07:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn... Finally someone in here with some brains. Your 100% correct Shermin8tor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn&#8230; Finally someone in here with some brains. Your 100% correct Shermin8tor.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://thenewsoftoday.com/california-elections-proposition-19-polls-indicate-it-wont-pass/4467/#comment-12362</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 07:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bean.... your trying to argue anything now. Things that shouldn&#039;t even need to be brought up for clarification. 

Hemp is the fiber from the cannabis plants stock. It is not referred to as Mary Jane, nor will it get you high. The statements above stated that these plants where made from &quot;Mary Jane&quot;. Mary Jane... in case you didnt know, are the buds from the cannabis plant. You know.... the stuff that gets you high?? No flags have ever been made out of the buds of the cannabis plant. They&#039;ve been made from the fibers of the stock, which is called Hemp. Not Mary Jane.

I&#039;ve been in this industry for over 10 years. Please dont try to downsize my knowledge. You&#039;ve once again made yourself look like a fool, along with your thermal imaging theory you wrote above. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bean&#8230;. your trying to argue anything now. Things that shouldn&#8217;t even need to be brought up for clarification. </p>
<p>Hemp is the fiber from the cannabis plants stock. It is not referred to as Mary Jane, nor will it get you high. The statements above stated that these plants where made from &#8220;Mary Jane&#8221;. Mary Jane&#8230; in case you didnt know, are the buds from the cannabis plant. You know&#8230;. the stuff that gets you high?? No flags have ever been made out of the buds of the cannabis plant. They&#8217;ve been made from the fibers of the stock, which is called Hemp. Not Mary Jane.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been in this industry for over 10 years. Please dont try to downsize my knowledge. You&#8217;ve once again made yourself look like a fool, along with your thermal imaging theory you wrote above.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 06:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick... Im glad that you questioned me. Your the first, and that shows you have some brains. Here are your answers... and you may have read a page or two, but you havent read the entire proposition. Its almost 60 pages long. 

Here&#039;s where I got the $5,000 for a growers permit: Page 4.

Section 26020. (a) The department shall license commercial cultivators
of marijuana. The fee for the license shall be set at an amount that
will reasonably cover the costs of assuring compliance with the
regulations to be issued, but may not exceed five thousand dollars
($5,000) for an initial application, or two thousand five hundred
dollars ($2,500) per year for each annual renewal.

You questioned the fees and taxes that I listed. My city has a 8.75% tax rate. So if you buy an ounce for $300, the tax on that would amount to $26.50. Plus the $50 that Prop 19 adds, which I will paste below.

Chapter 4.
Disposition of Proceeds and Adjustment of the Fee
34031. Any amount required to be paid to the state under this
part shall be paid to the board in the form of a remittance payable
to the State Board of Equalization. The board shall transmit the
payments to the Treasurer to be deposited in the Drug Abuse
Prevention Supplemental Funding Account, which is hereby created
in the General Fund. Upon appropriation by the Legislature, the
moneys in the fund shall be expended exclusively for drug
education, awareness, and rehabilitation programs under the
jurisdiction of the State Department of Alcohol and Drug Programs,
or any successor to that agency.
34032. The fee imposed pursuant to Chapter 2 shall be annually
reviewed by the State Department of Alcohol and Drug Programs,
or any successor to that agency, to determine whether a fee less
than that specified in Chapter 2 will provide sufficient resources
to support its drug education, awareness, and rehabilitation
programs. Based on this annual review, the State Department of
Alcohol and Drug Programs shall adjust that fee to an amount not
to exceed fifty dollars ($50) per ounce (avoirdupois) of marijuana
that is necessary to fund its drug education, awareness, and
rehabilitation programs, and that amount shall be collected in place
of the fee specified in Chapter 2.
SEC. 34.

You must have read the short version that everyone else is ready. Try to find the long version, thats filled with the lawyer mumbo-jumbo and see if you still support it after reading all of the fine print.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick&#8230; Im glad that you questioned me. Your the first, and that shows you have some brains. Here are your answers&#8230; and you may have read a page or two, but you havent read the entire proposition. Its almost 60 pages long. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s where I got the $5,000 for a growers permit: Page 4.</p>
<p>Section 26020. (a) The department shall license commercial cultivators<br />
of marijuana. The fee for the license shall be set at an amount that<br />
will reasonably cover the costs of assuring compliance with the<br />
regulations to be issued, but may not exceed five thousand dollars<br />
($5,000) for an initial application, or two thousand five hundred<br />
dollars ($2,500) per year for each annual renewal.</p>
<p>You questioned the fees and taxes that I listed. My city has a 8.75% tax rate. So if you buy an ounce for $300, the tax on that would amount to $26.50. Plus the $50 that Prop 19 adds, which I will paste below.</p>
<p>Chapter 4.<br />
Disposition of Proceeds and Adjustment of the Fee<br />
34031. Any amount required to be paid to the state under this<br />
part shall be paid to the board in the form of a remittance payable<br />
to the State Board of Equalization. The board shall transmit the<br />
payments to the Treasurer to be deposited in the Drug Abuse<br />
Prevention Supplemental Funding Account, which is hereby created<br />
in the General Fund. Upon appropriation by the Legislature, the<br />
moneys in the fund shall be expended exclusively for drug<br />
education, awareness, and rehabilitation programs under the<br />
jurisdiction of the State Department of Alcohol and Drug Programs,<br />
or any successor to that agency.<br />
34032. The fee imposed pursuant to Chapter 2 shall be annually<br />
reviewed by the State Department of Alcohol and Drug Programs,<br />
or any successor to that agency, to determine whether a fee less<br />
than that specified in Chapter 2 will provide sufficient resources<br />
to support its drug education, awareness, and rehabilitation<br />
programs. Based on this annual review, the State Department of<br />
Alcohol and Drug Programs shall adjust that fee to an amount not<br />
to exceed fifty dollars ($50) per ounce (avoirdupois) of marijuana<br />
that is necessary to fund its drug education, awareness, and<br />
rehabilitation programs, and that amount shall be collected in place<br />
of the fee specified in Chapter 2.<br />
SEC. 34.</p>
<p>You must have read the short version that everyone else is ready. Try to find the long version, thats filled with the lawyer mumbo-jumbo and see if you still support it after reading all of the fine print.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 06:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Bean... but your not making any points. Lee95301 only said.. Think about how dangerous it will be when combined with alcohol. Have you ever had a light buzz from drinking a few beers and then smoked a joint?? Your high and drunkenness shoot through the roof. Lee made a very good point there. He didnt say that one was better then the other, he simply said, imagine the 2 together. And thats what people will do. They&#039;ll mix them. I do it myself, but fortunately Im a responsible person, that will only do something like that while at home, the kids at their grandparents house, and with me not driving anywhere. Unfortunately, not everyone is like me. 

Then you mentioned all of the money spent on prohibiting the use of Marijuana... Well imagine all of the money that will be spent making sure that people only grow in the 5x5 foot area given. Making sure that people only have 1 ounce on them. Making sure that children are not present while weed is consumed. There&#039;s almost 60 pages of new laws that prop 19 brings about. You dont think those are going to get broken?? We&#039;ll end up paying more money in law enforcement just trying to regulate this crap, then what we would on a pure ban. Plus a law just passed that makes possession of under an ounce only an infraction, punishable by a $100 fine. Thats it, thats all. 

Marijuana needs to be decriminalized. Not legalized. Legalization bring about new laws, that people can and will break and still end up going to jail for this awesome plant. Decriminalization, just takes the punishments away from it. So it still may be frowned upon, and unexceptionable in society, but no one will go to jail over it. Thats how it should be. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Bean&#8230; but your not making any points. Lee95301 only said.. Think about how dangerous it will be when combined with alcohol. Have you ever had a light buzz from drinking a few beers and then smoked a joint?? Your high and drunkenness shoot through the roof. Lee made a very good point there. He didnt say that one was better then the other, he simply said, imagine the 2 together. And thats what people will do. They&#8217;ll mix them. I do it myself, but fortunately Im a responsible person, that will only do something like that while at home, the kids at their grandparents house, and with me not driving anywhere. Unfortunately, not everyone is like me. </p>
<p>Then you mentioned all of the money spent on prohibiting the use of Marijuana&#8230; Well imagine all of the money that will be spent making sure that people only grow in the 5&#215;5 foot area given. Making sure that people only have 1 ounce on them. Making sure that children are not present while weed is consumed. There&#8217;s almost 60 pages of new laws that prop 19 brings about. You dont think those are going to get broken?? We&#8217;ll end up paying more money in law enforcement just trying to regulate this crap, then what we would on a pure ban. Plus a law just passed that makes possession of under an ounce only an infraction, punishable by a $100 fine. Thats it, thats all. </p>
<p>Marijuana needs to be decriminalized. Not legalized. Legalization bring about new laws, that people can and will break and still end up going to jail for this awesome plant. Decriminalization, just takes the punishments away from it. So it still may be frowned upon, and unexceptionable in society, but no one will go to jail over it. Thats how it should be.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 06:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bean... You must have skipped everything that I have written here. So I&#039;ll break it down for you, once again. And again... I dont mean to be rude, but this is a bit frustrating. 

Prop 19 gives you 25 square feet to grow and you can only posses 1 ounce of dried, smoke-able cannabis. So lets figure this out here..... I can break it all the way down and write a novel on how to grow, but I wont go into that much detail. 

In order for a cannabis plant to produce flowers/buds, it needs no more then 12 hours of daylight per day, without any light interruptions, from street lights, patio lights or what have you. In nature, this light cycle only happens once per year. So you can grow your 1 ounce allotted to you, that 1 time per year... Then you would be forced to go out and buy it for the remainder of the year. So that kinda cancels out growing outdoors, now doesn&#039;t it?? 

Your next option is growing indoors. To fill a 25 square foot space, your going to need about a 600 watt Metal Halide light, which will run you a good $300 for the light hood and ballast. Then for the flowering period, your going to need another light, called a HPS. You can get a switchable ballast that will convert between the 2 different spectrums for about $350. Plus you will need 2 sperate bulbs, which run about $100 each. You&#039;ll probably end up needing a vent fan to exhaust the heat that these lights produce. A 6 inch vent fan will run you about $120. So we&#039;re looking at about $670 so far, just on equipment. Now with this little setup, that I didnt even include the cost of growing medium and nutrients into, is going to take you 3 months to grow. Usually 1 month in the vegative stage for general growth and 2 months flowering. So this only allows you to get 1 harvest every 3 months. And lets not forget that the harvest can be no more then 1 ounce. So you better hope that 1 ounce will last you 3 month until your next crop is done.... Otherwise your butt is going to be running to the store to buy some high priced, low grade, commercially grown Marijuana. I dont know about you, but 1 ounce wont last me 3 months. 

So if that&#039;s what you want.... I sure hope you dont live in the same state as I do. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bean&#8230; You must have skipped everything that I have written here. So I&#8217;ll break it down for you, once again. And again&#8230; I dont mean to be rude, but this is a bit frustrating. </p>
<p>Prop 19 gives you 25 square feet to grow and you can only posses 1 ounce of dried, smoke-able cannabis. So lets figure this out here&#8230;.. I can break it all the way down and write a novel on how to grow, but I wont go into that much detail. </p>
<p>In order for a cannabis plant to produce flowers/buds, it needs no more then 12 hours of daylight per day, without any light interruptions, from street lights, patio lights or what have you. In nature, this light cycle only happens once per year. So you can grow your 1 ounce allotted to you, that 1 time per year&#8230; Then you would be forced to go out and buy it for the remainder of the year. So that kinda cancels out growing outdoors, now doesn&#8217;t it?? </p>
<p>Your next option is growing indoors. To fill a 25 square foot space, your going to need about a 600 watt Metal Halide light, which will run you a good $300 for the light hood and ballast. Then for the flowering period, your going to need another light, called a HPS. You can get a switchable ballast that will convert between the 2 different spectrums for about $350. Plus you will need 2 sperate bulbs, which run about $100 each. You&#8217;ll probably end up needing a vent fan to exhaust the heat that these lights produce. A 6 inch vent fan will run you about $120. So we&#8217;re looking at about $670 so far, just on equipment. Now with this little setup, that I didnt even include the cost of growing medium and nutrients into, is going to take you 3 months to grow. Usually 1 month in the vegative stage for general growth and 2 months flowering. So this only allows you to get 1 harvest every 3 months. And lets not forget that the harvest can be no more then 1 ounce. So you better hope that 1 ounce will last you 3 month until your next crop is done&#8230;. Otherwise your butt is going to be running to the store to buy some high priced, low grade, commercially grown Marijuana. I dont know about you, but 1 ounce wont last me 3 months. </p>
<p>So if that&#8217;s what you want&#8230;. I sure hope you dont live in the same state as I do.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 06:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Bean... but thats incorrect. Read the entire bill. Not just the summarized version.  You are only allowed to posses 1 ounce. Thats one ounce period. It doesnt matter whether its inside of your home or outside of your home, your only allowed to posses 1 ounce, period. Im not sure where everyone is getting this public thing, but no where in the bill does it mention 1 ounce in public. It says you can only posses 1 ounce. 

The bill doesnt say that your allowed to have as much weed as you can grow in a 5x5 foot area... it says that a 25 square foot area is all that you are legally allowed to use to grow. No more then that. Now if you produce 2 ounces from that area, you need to hurry up and get rid of that extra ounce, because while your in possession of that extra ounce, your in violation of the law set by Prop 19. 

And the other thing you mentioned..... Thermal imaging shows images of heat. Its not Xray vision. Thermal imaging can not see through walls or roofs. What thermal imaging picks up on are exhaust vents coming out of the sides of houses that are hotter than the average dryer exhaust vent. There is no way to tell how many plants a person is growing by simple thermal imaging. They can get an idea from it. The more heat coming out of the vent.. they will assume the more lights you have running. 

So as you said... No pun intended, but people really need to use their heads here. But then again... I guess people are, because the votes so far are showing this as a &quot;no go&quot;, which is the way it should be, based on how this crazy bill is written. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Bean&#8230; but thats incorrect. Read the entire bill. Not just the summarized version.  You are only allowed to posses 1 ounce. Thats one ounce period. It doesnt matter whether its inside of your home or outside of your home, your only allowed to posses 1 ounce, period. Im not sure where everyone is getting this public thing, but no where in the bill does it mention 1 ounce in public. It says you can only posses 1 ounce. </p>
<p>The bill doesnt say that your allowed to have as much weed as you can grow in a 5&#215;5 foot area&#8230; it says that a 25 square foot area is all that you are legally allowed to use to grow. No more then that. Now if you produce 2 ounces from that area, you need to hurry up and get rid of that extra ounce, because while your in possession of that extra ounce, your in violation of the law set by Prop 19. </p>
<p>And the other thing you mentioned&#8230;.. Thermal imaging shows images of heat. Its not Xray vision. Thermal imaging can not see through walls or roofs. What thermal imaging picks up on are exhaust vents coming out of the sides of houses that are hotter than the average dryer exhaust vent. There is no way to tell how many plants a person is growing by simple thermal imaging. They can get an idea from it. The more heat coming out of the vent.. they will assume the more lights you have running. </p>
<p>So as you said&#8230; No pun intended, but people really need to use their heads here. But then again&#8230; I guess people are, because the votes so far are showing this as a &#8220;no go&#8221;, which is the way it should be, based on how this crazy bill is written.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Bradshaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Bradshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 20:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>right. I guess Obama has a low paying job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>right. I guess Obama has a low paying job.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Bradshaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Bradshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 20:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>right. I guess Obama has a low paying job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>right. I guess Obama has a low paying job.</p>
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